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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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Sweet kowompu
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 5006 Location: Paris, FRANCE  |
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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je n'ai pas et je n'oserais pas Trackmaster, I was showing you that les écrits ne sont parfois pas grand chose. It may not be written but it's here.
I didn't see that news on TV nor read that on the internet, I'll wait and see  |
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Haitianone

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 16180 Location: BOSTON,MA  |
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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There are a lot of unwritten rules that are highly coveted in every society. Now, to sing the national anthem in Spanish is a total disrespect of one of those unwritten rules. Imagine others singing the various latino conntries national anthems in English. Do you think they would appreciate that? I highly doubt so.
Secondly, the whole issue of immigration lies in the tenaments of allowing undocumented folks the right to legally integrate in American society. How are you integrating when you are purposely singing the national anthem in another tongue. In my view, stupid and gives the hardcore racists a theme to conjure up folks they would not typically support them. In life there are things not meant to play with and that being one of them.
The argument that English is not the official language of this country is accurate. On paper, however, in all of its business and legal transactions English is the language used. |
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Neg Lakay

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 541
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet kowompu wrote: |
In which language are you filling your taxes Trackmaster
The decision of a state/governor, is not for the whole country.
As far as I know until Washington DC decide of something else, you're going to speaking american english for a long time.
In fact do you speak spanish? and do you think that that spanish-speaking population cannot speak english? |
In the US, you have the choice to fill your taxes in either english or spanish (http://www.irs.gov)
A lot of federal sites now have a spanish version, because as Track pointed out: english is not the official language of the US, it's just the most widely spoken language. Meaning if spanish becomes the most widely spoken language in the country (at the rates things are going this is possible), it may be used to replace english as the de-facto language of the country. Right now it is very close to becoming a co-defacto language (some would say it has already become.
Peace!
Neg Lakay _________________ "The first WEALTH is HEALTH"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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kafou

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 19129 Location: Nan Tchoulolo  |
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Haitianone;
Jeune gens ou ginleu ap louwe christ la anpil, paske tout sa ke ou di fe anpil sense.  _________________ JISKOZO EPI NINPOTKIJAN
A LA MANIERE DE MIZIK LAKAY
" OU DI OU CHAJE KLAS, ENBIN POUKISA OU PA ALLER FE LEKOL AVEK YO" |
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Neg Lakay

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 541
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: The United States National Anthem.... |
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trackmaster wrote: |
The United States National Anthem sang in spanish. How do you guys feel about this??? |
I lol'ed so hard the first time I read about this... to tell you the truth, I don't care about it that much, it sounds weird but so did the kreyol version of Haiti's anthem when I first heard it. I can see however how americans may be pissed at this.
Peace!
Neg Lakay _________________ "The first WEALTH is HEALTH"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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Sweet kowompu
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 5006 Location: Paris, FRANCE  |
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Neg Lakay wrote: |
In the US, you have the choice to fill your taxes in either english or spanish (http://www.irs.gov)
A lot of federal sites now have a spanish version, because as Track pointed out: english is not the official language of the US, it's just the most widely spoken language. Meaning if spanish becomes the most widely spoken language in the country (at the rates things are going this is possible), it may be used to replace english as the de-facto language of the country. Right now it is very close to becoming a co-defacto language (some would say it has already become.
Peace!
Neg Lakay |
eh ben, you learn something everyday, il y a beaucoup de complaisance avec la langue espagnole! I'll watch the news closely these days. Thanks
But my comment is still standing. Even if it's going to be the most widely spoken language (which I doubt when you're leaving/working in the US you should be able to speak his most widely spoken language...English... ), american english is here to stay. |
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Neg Lakay

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 541
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I do agree with you SK
Peace!
Neg Lakay _________________ "The first WEALTH is HEALTH"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
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SIROMYEL
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 9967 Location: TAMPA  |
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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While Englsish may not be technically hte official language, like boulevard said, it is the de factoofficial language.
What this means is that, even though it has not been written on paper, Enlgish is in fact the official language in everyone's maind.
A lot of people are not aware that the consitution does not recognize an official language. Everything here is conducted in English.
Therefore, while it may be admissible in court, I think singing the Star-Spangled Banner in spanish is a big slap to the United States, especially sinse they have changed some of the words to meet their own agenda.
Quite frankly, I think it makes Hispanics feel that they have more of a right to be here, not learn the language and the ways of this country, and have the country bend it's rules to adapt to their needs.
I am an immigrant as well, so don't think that I am anti-immigration. But immigrants should adapt to the way of living of this country, not the other way around. |
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wonder

Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 309 Location: Florida  |
Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think this thing has been blown way out of proportion, are people gonna sing the National Anthem in Spanish? Hell NO!!! It was just a producer trying to make some noise with that whole saga about the immigrants, and come out with the track, it's not like the Star-Spangled Banner is being sung around the country in Spanish or anything like that. The English version (lyrics) of La Dessalinienne can be found on the net , I won't be surpised if the music version is out there as well. Poze people. _________________ Success is getting what you want; happiness is wanting what you get. |
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konpaconvert
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7440 Location: FORT LAUDERDALE  |
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: |
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First of all they have a right to remake any song that they want...however there is no way in Hell that those white folks in the capital will ever approve such a thing....
Sencondly, for those who haven't heard it yet let me just say that its not going anywhere in my opinion....the song is not translated word for word, Wyclef vocals really made the song uncredible (I love the guy and what he means to our country but I felt embarassed by him in this product) and the whole song ws more like showcasing the talent than the actual patriotic words.
Oh by the way they got a Remix, yes I said remix with a 11 year -old Reggaethon artist....LOL Unbelievable
Only in America....gotta love it |
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