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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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kompamagazine Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 43367 Location: HMI World  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: PATRICIA LATOUR: MIN PWOBLEM "FI" NAN HMI LA! |
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Li retounin anko. Animatrice PATRICIA LATOUR de Radio Ibo en Haiti te pale ak KOMPA MAGAZINE sou yon lot dossier ke nou te mande l opinion li. AL LI!
*KOMPA MAGAZINE: POUKISA ke li dificil ke pa gin yon artis FI nan monde COMPAS a ki gin jaz pa li...kap mache? Eske fanatik yo pa pare pou sa? Eske se fot atis FI yo? Eske se fanatik yo? Fot kiyes? PALE AVEK NOU Patricia. Sa HMI la gin ak Atis FI nan monde COMPAS a...ou bien sa atis FI gin ak HMI la...domaine COMPAS bien sur.
PATRICIA LATOUR: "Son bel sujet. Map komanse ak premier kesyon an. POUKISA ke li dificil ke pa gin yon artis FI nan monde COMPAS a ki gin jaz pa li...kap mache?
Paske société haitienne nan son machiste. Type de musique ke nou jwe ya ki se konpa dans le temps yo te toujou atribuyel ak vwa grave. Yo abitye ak vwa homme, kounya si yon fi al eseye percer ladann lap difisil; et fol ta al eseye surpasel paske lap jwenn anpil anpil obstacle sou parcours li. Sil pa grand psycologiquement li pap ka rive a objektif li.
Publik la gentan gen yon preferans pou voix masculine nan monde konpa, en + ke societe sa son societe Machiste, yon societe kote anpil moun pa kwe gen de domaine fanm ka evoluer ladann. Tankou mwen menm ki fe yon emission konpa, anpil moun etone le yo tande gon fanm sou band fm nan kap animer konpa. Yo te gentan di se travay gason. Se gason ki ka animer konpa, se sak fe ou pa jwenn anpil fanm ap fe sa map fe ya. Mizik nou an ki se konpa, nan mentalite moun yo et se konsa yo te leve jwenn li. Se gason ki ka percer nan domaine nan ,se sak fe menm « chœur » fanm pat ka fe lontan nan mizik nou an.
Se nan annee 80 ou komanse jwenn fanm ap fe choeur tankou Evans Lespinasse etc.. donc yo gentan incarner sa nan lespri yo automatiquement. Medam yo vinn tres reservee, atis fanm yo peur aventurer yo nan millieu ya, peur former groupe menm jan ak mesye yo. Li vinn gon aspect psychologique ki fe atis fanm yo peur avanse nan millieu ya; ki fe yo douter de tete yo."
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FANATIK!
Eske fanatik yo pa pare pou sa?
Se yon ti kategori ki pare pou li. Se moun ki gen yon esprit d'ouverture ki pare pou sa. Son kesyon de mentalite, so Majorité moun pa pare pou sa fet.
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A QUI LA FAUTE?
Eske se fot atis FI yo? Eske se fanatik yo? Fot kiyes?
Fot Haitien avant tout a koz de mentalite nou. Ensuite se fot atis fanm yo paske yo bloke tet yo. Yo limiter tet yo. Yo pa kwe ke yo kapab percer pou publik la aksepte yo.
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ATIS FI NAN COMPAS AK HMI LA!
Sa HMI la gin ak Atis FI nan monde COMPAS a...ou bien sa atis FI gin ak HMI la...domaine COMPAS.
Atis fanm yo anpil sous estimer tet yo au prealable. Yo met lan tet yo ke son gason ki pou epole yo, son promoteur, yon manager ki pou ap manage, ki pou fe yo rive. C'est faux. Mwen panse si yo te gon ti kras konfyans lan tet yo, gen anpil bagay fanm te ka fe nan biznis sa; et moun te ka sezi we fanm fel pi bien ke gason. Se atis fanm yo ki pou komanse fe tet yo konfyans; di tet yo ke yo kapab fe publik la aksepte yo menm jan ak mesye yo. Mwen baw garanti depi yo met sa nan lespri yo, ke yo ka percer nan domaine sa. Nap kapab jwenn djaz fanm ki diriger pa fanm. Fanm ap kapab jwe konpa normalement. Kke yo debloke lespri yo. Son konsey.
KM! _________________ phpbb:echo dicks; |
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jowi boston
Joined: 03 Aug 2014 Posts: 70 Location: Boston  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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menm jan artist fanm reyise nan rythme zouk la artist fanm ka perse nan kompa tou, se bon pouw bou kelkeswa rythme ou tap jwe ya ou pata ka ozew pa aksepte jocelyne beroard, Tanya st val etc... |
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Timizik

Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Posts: 19 Location: Palm Beach  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Map dil map redil anko.
Compa music business is a real business.
In every business you need capital investment, you need a good product, and a good process. Now everybody can wake up one morning and start a compa band with a female lead singer, will it succeed? That will depend on:
1)capital, Who is going to lay the money I'm sure there is female with money to do it
2) product, compa is not necessary compa direk heavy compa but it could be new generation style, do the ladies have the talent or the one with the talent don't want to use it. From my experience in the business a crappy artist can have a nice studio record but can't perform live. You can't get away with that in compa, fok ou depoze compa.ex jbeatz.
3) process, meaning logistic, promotion, booking, coordination,management.
For a female band to be successful they have to stand on those 3 legs.
A little case study. there was a little band called "Desire" in Miami. when I sat down with them in 2007 they had an album ready to go but they fell short on capital. Let's say they had the fund, would they over come the product =talent part? Pou on jazz kampe ap Jwe kompa pou 6 hours in front of a crowd of 3000 people in a tight club it is no joke, ask Gazzman disip la diw. It is not seating on a couch in climate controlled recording studio. Those female would have to be a rare breed. We don't need to go on the third leg if we can't assure the first two.
That was the business side, I did not even touch the social and emotional side. But I still believe in one thing I know there are a couple guy in the HMI if they back up a female artist they will make something out of it, it may not hold for too long but it would be something. Remember " Riske" did it back in the 90s _________________ HMI Pa pou piyay.... |
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kompamagazine Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 43367 Location: HMI World  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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TI MIZIK
You talk like the manager or investor of a band already based on what you wrote here. NICE BREAKDOWN.
PS: Out of curiosity, which musicians duo you think if they backed up an HMI female band...would make something out of it?
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Timizik

Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Posts: 19 Location: Palm Beach  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I did not mean musicians by saying couple of guys I meant a couple of band managers. Needless to say their name cause it is going to happen in million years. I want to add this, not only a Compa issue. Even thou the Compa is worse. But I see that issue in Rock n Roll as well. _________________ HMI Pa pou piyay.... |
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kompamagazine Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 43367 Location: HMI World  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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How is it a ROCK AND ROLL issue? We've had very successful ROCK GODDESSES/GROUPS haven't we?
KM! _________________ phpbb:echo dicks; |
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Timizik

Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Posts: 19 Location: Palm Beach  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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In 2011 it was Not even 10% _________________ HMI Pa pou piyay.... |
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kompared

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 10274 Location: miami, Florida  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Encore unde fois Patricia bien depose sou KM sa voye monte. Reponses li yo tres elabore et profound.
Thanks for sharing Pat and Patricia......Bel topic _________________ Kite'l mache |
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SIROMYEL
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 9967 Location: TAMPA  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nice answers from Patricia,
but I think there are more factors that she could have touched on than just the two she focused on:
1. lack of confidence from the ladies.
2. and sexist culture.
Mwen panse gen anpil mesdame ki pa vle fe sacrifis industry an mande yo pou yo fe a tout. And I'm not talking just the sexual favors aspect.
Gen sa la dann tou oui.
But when you take into account that most women like a more stable lifestyle. They probably want to marry and have children... being in the music industry ( though you may have the talent) starts to look a little less appealing.
It's very risky. You have to weigh your options.
Am I willing to take all that risk, while sacrificing everything else I want to do (which may have a better chance at working out) and be a musician in my own band with no fruits to show for it at the end.
Sa a se on bagay ki mande reflechi. Men are more willing to take that risk than women. _________________ A man who has taken possession of his own mind may take possession of anything else to which he is justly entitled_ Carnegie |
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kreyolflava

Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 79 Location: Lake Worth, Florida  |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I wish we had more women on the board to weigh in on this topic. |
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