KOMPA! MAGAZINE

[menkonpa]

Since I have been listening and watching live footages on Kompamagazine, I have noticed something. Many of the solos and grooves that are performed as part of the live additions to other songs end up in the studio versions of a few other songs. For example, the song "Veye Zow'" of Krezi has an entire part they performed live numerous times. Djakout has many examples with the Ti-Regi grooves. T-Vice's Anmwey section and the follow-up groove on "Kite m' Viv" is been heard live for a long time. Carimi's "First Time" features a keyboard solo that is a live section to "Mwen Sou". There are surely other examples that I have not looked for.

It pisses me off to buy a studio cd just to hear the same grooves that I have been hearing for months live. It makes the song somewhat insipid. I understand that the bands want the public to get familiar with the grooves, but isn't a studio cd supposed to keep them guessing, isn't it supposed to showcase your creativity? For fans and critics like me, I see that as redundancy.

The songs "Eskive" and "Jistis" are perfect example of this. I have been listening to the live section of these songs for months. I like the idea, but doing this should be timely. Let's say that two months prior to releasing your cd, you start performing some parts of it live, but not say 6, 7 months. Especially, don't take random live solos and feature them on your studio songs. It doesnt bring anything new.

Atache, bands and artists HMI a pran ka ko nou.

[Gromosso]

Menkonpa,

this is an industry practice, every single band does it. It's nothing new.
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[Mizikamort]

I kind of agree with you.

Bands should let their grooves as surprises for their next CDs. It's not only solos or grooves, they do it with lyrics too. Like anwol bon, anba'l bon de Kreyol la.

There's not too much new after the album release, cause we knew so many of those grooves before groups drop albums.
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[menkonpa]

I am not the first one to say things should be different in the HMI gromosso. Just because every band does it doesnt make it right.
There are many other issues (including being cheap) that bands should address and stop messing around.

[VALBOSKI]

You have just embarrassed yourself on the Board. Your statement about live grooves ending in studio CDs makes certain that you are just a ROOKIE in compas. Most of the songs in compas are made the same way. While a band is playing a live a song live, yo kitel mache(a lot of improvisation). If the improvisation done by the guitar or the keyboard or the horn section comes out really good, the band composes a song based on that. That is the reason that you hear a lot of grooves that are familiar in some songs. Personnally, studio CDs do nothing for me.
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[Machiavel]

Bands do try out their groves live before recording it on a studio album. It's normal. In fact, if you're familiar with the groove, you will like the new song, well not all the time.

[PhizUniq]

I remember that Kunta said the old school bands used to do that too.

So, it's no big deal!
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[menkonpa]

VALBOSKI wrote:

You have just embarrassed yourself on the Board. Your statement about live grooves ending in studio CDs makes certain that you are just a ROOKIE in compas. Most of the songs in compas are made the same way. While a band is playing a live a song live, yo kitel mache(a lot of improvisation). If the improvisation done by the guitar or the keyboard or the horn section comes out really good, the band composes a song based on that. That is the reason that you hear a lot of grooves that are familiar in some songs. Personnally, studio CDs do nothing for me.

Well I am a rookie in Compas, that you are right about. I wasn't asking how long this practice has been going on, my opinion was that it didn't please me that I sometimes don't get many new things in a compas album, since I may have heard half their grooves in live bals.
By the Way, I certainly hope no one composes a song just based on guitar or keyboard solo that sounds good in a live, that would be dumb in my opinion.
I guess you are a live person, I am a studio cd guy.

[LOLOVICE]

it is not the first time that happened man. mizik mizik use that in the carnaval 1995 or 1996. i guess you did not know that, i believe you came with that just to pick on t-vice as usual. when you guys are gonna give t-vice the credit huh. those guys work very hard to come up with that new album.
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[menkonpa]

LOLOVICE wrote:

it is not the first time that happened man. mizik mizik use that in the carnaval 1995 or 1996. i guess you did not know that, i believe you came with that just to pick on t-vice as usual. when you guys are gonna give t-vice the credit huh. those guys work very hard to come up with that new album.

You are a short-sighted T-Vice fan. Think everyone should be paying you attention, trying to justify yourself always. I wasn't even thinking about T-Vice when I started this post. I was just making an observation. I guess I need a little more help putting my argument with positive remarks, not with repulsive comments, thanks.