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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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jeancelestin
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 12591 Location: BOSTON - EN LAS TODAS PARTES  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Gromosso wrote: |
Pat,
when bands try to shove something down one's throat by neglecting the very same fans that propelled their popularity, it turns me off especially if the new product isn't to my liking.
Nu Look is a perfect example.
You look at the comments some of the so-called Nu Look fans made on the Disip "update pictures" thread, not too long ago the same comments were made about the band regarding their fanbase The funny thing is, these fans are the same ones that will support their bands through thick and thin, they will buy your albums, they will go out to their parties. In other words, YAP MACHE AVEK JAZZ LA. Epi kounyea menm moun sa yo te gentan pat bon pou jazz la ankor!
Tchuip again ankor!
I started listening to Nu Look in 04, I became a fan of the band when I started listening to them, the band stood out for something them. Compas Direct in its purest form along with Zenglen. Map tande kelke ansyen NL 2003 -2007, bagay sa fem mal.
I have nothing against Arly and the band, I respect him for all he's done and contributed to our genre. It's his choice to change the band's style, it actually started on "Abo" in actuality. Respecting it is one, accepting it is another and that I cannot and won't do. I love Nu Look but they will not get the same type of support that they used to getting from me. |
GRO, WHO is the true fan base you are talking about here?
Fans, in your likes or TRUE MELOMANES?
IF YOU r talking about NU LOOK here, TRUE MELOMANES will always be behind the band. AND, the reason is simple. MELOMANES LOOK FOR GOOD MUSIC.
BUT, SI 2,3 gren MOUNS PA mache deye djazz la, that is expected
You will never please everybody.
But, ou gen lot djazz ou pou mache deye, sa pa ou pwoblem, mon che
SA OU WE?
C PA GRAVE, GRO
PS. BY THE WAY, OU VIN SANSIV POU DJAZZ LAN ANPIL, HEIN  _________________ AUX PAS, AVEC LE KOMPAS!
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Gromosso

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 10479
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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jeancelestin wrote: |
Gromosso wrote: |
Pat,
when bands try to shove something down one's throat by neglecting the very same fans that propelled their popularity, it turns me off especially if the new product isn't to my liking.
Nu Look is a perfect example.
You look at the comments some of the so-called Nu Look fans made on the Disip "update pictures" thread, not too long ago the same comments were made about the band regarding their fanbase The funny thing is, these fans are the same ones that will support their bands through thick and thin, they will buy your albums, they will go out to their parties. In other words, YAP MACHE AVEK JAZZ LA. Epi kounyea menm moun sa yo te gentan pat bon pou jazz la ankor!
Tchuip again ankor!
I started listening to Nu Look in 04, I became a fan of the band when I started listening to them, the band stood out for something them. Compas Direct in its purest form along with Zenglen. Map tande kelke ansyen NL 2003 -2007, bagay sa fem mal.
I have nothing against Arly and the band, I respect him for all he's done and contributed to our genre. It's his choice to change the band's style, it actually started on "Abo" in actuality. Respecting it is one, accepting it is another and that I cannot and won't do. I love Nu Look but they will not get the same type of support that they used to getting from me. |
GRO, WHO is the true fan base you are talking about here?
Fans, in your likes or TRUE MELOMANES?
IF YOU r talking about NU LOOK here, TRUE MELOMANES will always be behind the band. AND, the reason is simple. MELOMANES LOOK FOR GOOD MUSIC.
BUT, SI 2,3 gren MOUNS PA mache deye djazz la, that is expected
You will never please everybody.
But, ou gen djazz lot djazz pou mache deye, gro
SA OU WE?
C PA GRAVE, GRO  |
Celestin, soyons serieux monche. Ou konnen quand il s'agit de NL, ou pa gen la parole ou du moins li pa valab.
Antouka tankou jan'w di a, tout moun chwa pa yo EPI NAP KITE'L MACHE KONSA KONSA KONSA ---> _________________ Bat Chyen An Tan'n Met Li
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jeancelestin
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 12591 Location: BOSTON - EN LAS TODAS PARTES  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Gromosso wrote: |
jeancelestin wrote: |
Gromosso wrote: |
Pat,
when bands try to shove something down one's throat by neglecting the very same fans that propelled their popularity, it turns me off especially if the new product isn't to my liking.
Nu Look is a perfect example.
You look at the comments some of the so-called Nu Look fans made on the Disip "update pictures" thread, not too long ago the same comments were made about the band regarding their fanbase The funny thing is, these fans are the same ones that will support their bands through thick and thin, they will buy your albums, they will go out to their parties. In other words, YAP MACHE AVEK JAZZ LA. Epi kounyea menm moun sa yo te gentan pat bon pou jazz la ankor!
Tchuip again ankor!
I started listening to Nu Look in 04, I became a fan of the band when I started listening to them, the band stood out for something them. Compas Direct in its purest form along with Zenglen. Map tande kelke ansyen NL 2003 -2007, bagay sa fem mal.
I have nothing against Arly and the band, I respect him for all he's done and contributed to our genre. It's his choice to change the band's style, it actually started on "Abo" in actuality. Respecting it is one, accepting it is another and that I cannot and won't do. I love Nu Look but they will not get the same type of support that they used to getting from me. |
GRO, WHO is the true fan base you are talking about here?
Fans, in your likes or TRUE MELOMANES?
IF YOU r talking about NU LOOK here, TRUE MELOMANES will always be behind the band. AND, the reason is simple. MELOMANES LOOK FOR GOOD MUSIC.
BUT, SI 2,3 gren MOUNS PA mache deye djazz la, that is expected
You will never please everybody.
But, ou gen djazz lot djazz pou mache deye, gro
SA OU WE?
C PA GRAVE, GRO  |
Celestin, soyons serieux monche. Ou konnen quand il s'agit de NL, ou pa gen la parole ou du moins li pa valab.
Antouka tankou jan'w di a, tout moun chwa pa yo EPI NAP KITE'L MACHE KONSA KONSA KONSA ---> |
oh, gro, come on, bro
FANATIK DJAZZ LA MWEN YE, MWEN PA GEN LA PAWOL?
Ah, bro, pa fe sa, mon che
Se menm jean mwen ta di'w ou pa gen dwa pale nan bagay DISIP WI?
SA OU WE?  _________________ AUX PAS, AVEC LE KOMPAS! |
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PlusHfully Yours
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7597 Location: Under a Mango Tree..  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: |
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I started listening to Nu Look in 04, I became a fan of the band when I started listening to them, the band stood out for something them. Compas Direct in its purest form along with Zenglen. Map tande kelke ansyen NL 2003 -2007, bagay sa fem mal.
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When I read this thread, this compas era is what popped in my head. I thought of Still News something news.. whatever CD.. lol and I also thought about Zenglen w Reginald & Frero. These bands, at that time, gained soo many fans that catered to the Carimi ZIN late KK days.
So yes it has been done and can be done. It all depends on the product and how you deliver it..
SideNote and truly hope this doesnt side track the topic of the thread: A heavy hitter band can try to sugarcoat their style to cater to another fan base but that doesnt always mean that they'll hit a run. Im taking Nulooks recent release w Mika & Michael of Carimi.. I think that track did absolutely nothing for them cause in my honest opinion, it wasnt nothing major enough to widen your audience in that aspect. Idk it didnt work for my ears although its still a decent track. It just didn't rock my ears like I had predicted and I see no predictions for it.. but who knows.. _________________ Walk With Faith... Not Fear... Free Yourself.. "The Vision" |
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evolityon
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 160 Location: st marck /fl  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Fofo lefloreville $ ler yon jazz jwe soft Konpa lap fer plus kob pase youn kap jwe Konpa direk . Epi tou pep nou se yon pep ki konplexe rasis AK tet to. Si disip se floroville Li tap jwe men si te gen tou gason sa yo Nan ball ou tap tande bon bagai . Gen de jazz ki pap jwe Nan zone lakai mwem . Bo lakai se pa tout moun ki ka ale Nan ball imaje tvice ap jwe 50 100$ us jazz ki jwe hardcore Konpa ball to se 10 20 us $ _________________ THE UNITED STATES OCCUPATION OF 1915-1938.un occupation 2004-2020 ABA ESKLAV |
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Kompa Love

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 2631 Location: FL  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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It can be done, as long as what you put out is good.
Kreyol La is the perfect example, with "Evolution" they've added more fans to their portfolio...
P.S. Ki le obsession Nu Look avek Disip sa ap fini? Nou vere tout post sou makakery...enfin! _________________ Man becomes man only by his intelligence, but he is man only by his heart.
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Gentleman1

Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 6020 Location: Fontamara, Haiti  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: |
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yon band pata sipoze ap chache chanje fans base w
w ta pito travay pou'w ogmante fans base la
w ka toujou rete orijinal
epi w aplike taktik maketin pou atire yon lot group..
ex: Tropicana, jazz tout generasion
ajoute sou Fans base la,
men pa chanje fans base la _________________
ZENGLEN PI RED |
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CAP - PORT MARGOT

Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 5286 Location: Anba Tonel Konpa  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Ahhhhhhhh, NU LOOK came to mind, then T-VICE with their CARIMI cpopycat WELCOME TO HAITI ALBUM.
So far, it ain't working for 1 of them. T-VICE ap manje moun, NU LOOK ap goumen internally. |
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kompared

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 10274 Location: miami, Florida  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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People can lie all they want, the fact of the matter bands cannot change their fanbase no matter what they do. It is all about perception and how you market yourself from the start. The type of compas that you play, the slogans, the lyrics contents of your song are among other factors that dictate your following.
Bands need to be content with their fanbase as long as they get paid to play. Depi yo peye w, it does not matter whom you play for.....It is a business after all...They can risk to lose their own fans in trying to attract a fanbase that will never follow them.
Some bands will always have a fanbase dominated by mature males/hardcore compas lovers no matter what they do. Others will have a hip/female dominated following. _________________ Kite'l mache |
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Jay Brooklyn

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 21884 Location: Brooklyn, USA  |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Byen ke'm pa finn dako ak sa, yon jazz gen shanje demografiks li se li panse ke fanbase pa bal sopport ke li te konn jwenn.
Mwen gade sa kom yon bizniz strateji.
Men fok tout ingredyen yo an plas pou li mashe...
Par example, si jazz la komanse granmoun, fok ou gen jeune gason ladan'l si se jenn timoun ou vle rale...
Si jazz la jeune, fok ou mete mizisyen serye lada'l pou atire granmoun..
Fok jazz la reflekte demografiks ke li fixe ya...
At the end of the day, si jazz la fe bon mizik li gen shans pou'l anvayi tout demografiks yo....
Si se jazz intel la Pat te gen lan lide'l, an nou tann rezilta yo...
Li two boneu pou nou fe yon assessment...  _________________ BAT CHIEN AN, TANN MET LI! |
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