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[Evie]

Hey KM !!!!


I have heard so many people complain as to how they feel that some Haitians are ashamed of where they come from within the states of Haiti. This is the reason why I am bringing this topic to your attention. Many individuals have said that when you ask a fellow Haitian where he or she is from, the person always says.....PORT-AU-PRINCE!!! They claim that "tout ayisyen sot P-AU-P"!!!

There are some I have have asked well how exactly do you know that these people are fibbing as to where they are from Many reply and say that "Ayisyen se konsa yo ye!". They never can accept what they are or where they come from. I was also told that they choose to say they are from P-AU-P because that is the capitol and it makes them look "BIG". Big in the sense that they did not come from an "unknown/unpopular" state.

KMers, mwen pa konnin non Tell me, is there some truth to what certain Haitians are saying about one another in terms of this

**I find that this topic may be a somewhat sensitive topic. Therefore, I ask that each and every one of you respond with respect. Please just give your opinions in a civilized manner without any DRAMA !!! Thanks in advance!!! **

[Fancy01]

This is a nice one Evie. I was just talking to my sister and my fiance about this this past weekk-end cause my fiance's parents are Haitian/Dominican but he was born here and doesn't understand the whole aspect of Haitians always saying they're from Port-au-Prince. But it is true, I have encountered a lot of people that say that they are Port-au-Prince, Petion-Ville or Delmas. The small minded people tend to associate everyone in those areas like they are rich, or better than ppl from other areas. It's ridiculous because if you really are from the Capitol then some ppl don't want to believe you because of all the lies others have told them. I personally could care less about where're you from in Haiti. If you are a good and intellectual person then why should it matter? It's not that serious.
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[MusiQ]

You can't fault some of these people entirely, because their fellow countrymen aren't making it easier for them either. It's the mentality of the whole culture that if you are from any other city then Port-au-prince you are consider a “moun mòn”. Some of these people lack self-confidence and pride of their city, especially if they are not too stable financially. They never really escape the mindset, even when they make it abroad. Gin ayisyen ki wont di se Ayiti yo soti, menm si yo pase w on kalot avek yon aksan.

The government is not helping either. Most government offices are in Port-au-Prince. Private businesses, hotels, stores, schools of quality are in one place. Port-au-Prince is like the New York, Paris, Rome of Haiti. Until these things are distributed equally throughout the country some people will always be ashame to say where they are from.

[SIROMYEL]

The problem is quite recent actually and the reason is simple.

I think the main factor is because of the lack of development that has taken place in the rest of the country when compared to Port-au-Prince.

Port-au-Prince is such a vibrant place, and even though it is behind when compared to other developed countries, it is ages ahead of the rest of the country.

Haitians are ery pretentious people. It is the blood of colonization that is still in us. It makes us feel that we always need someone else to look down on. Even though in reality, we are not that much better off than the person we are looking down on.

As a result, people from Port-au-Prince look down on others who are from the other areas of the country because of their mannerism, the way they speak and dress, adn the foods they eat.

Instead of embracing the diversity of the country, and condemning the administration of our country for not giving everyone the same opportunity to grow... they look down on their own.

As a result people from other areas protect themselves by claiming they are from Port-au-prince even though they are not.

The only people who don't are those from Au Cap and Jacmel.

1. People from Au Cap really cannot hide the way they speak... at least not initially. And the historical value of the city have given its people a lot of well deserved pride.

2. People from Jacmel have also been very proud of their city because of its beauty. Jacmel is also very renowned for its beaches, its art and its women.

I was born in La vallee de Jacmel but have lived in Port-au-prince untill I was 11. I could very easily claim Port-au-Prince. But I don't because I was aware of this problem and I am not ashamed of being born in La Vallee de Jacmel.

It is a beautiful place with beautiful people. It's very cool in the morning and once the sun goes down a symphony starts to play in your ears. LOL
The air is so clean.

Being there is literally like being inside of a painting because the colors are so rich and amazing.

We need to embrace the diversity of our country because each place have something wonderful to offer.
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[FoFo]

Great topic Evie!

se yon phenomen mwen remarker anpil and
Siro did a great job elaborating!

i think its such a silly mentality! i was born in
Petion Ville but i always tell people mwen se fanm
St Marc because that is where my people are from!
Jan province yo bel, why be ashamed of where you come from?
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[MusiQ]

SIROMYEL wrote:

The problem is quite recent actually and the reason is simple. I think the main factor is because of the lack of development that has taken place in the rest of the country when compared to Port-au-Prince. Port-au-Prince is such a vibrant place, and even though it is behind when compared to other developed countries, it is ages ahead of the rest of the country. Haitians are ery pretentious people. It is the blood of colonization that is still in us. It makes us feel that we always need someone else to look down on. Even though in reality, we are not that much better off than the person we are looking down on. As a result, people from Port-au-Prince look down on others who are from the other areas of the country because of their mannerism, the way they speak and dress, adn the foods they eat. Instead of embracing the diversity of the country, and condemning the administration of our country for not giving everyone the same opportunity to grow... they look down on their own. As a result people from other areas protect themselves by claiming they are from Port-au-prince even though they are not. The only people who don't are those from Au Cap and Jacmel. 1. People from Au Cap really cannot hide the way they speak... at least not initially. And the historical value of the city have given its people a lot of well deserved pride. 2. People from Jacmel have also been very proud of their city because of its beauty. Jacmel is also very renowned for its beaches, its art and its women. I was born in La vallee de Jacmel but have lived in Port-au-prince untill I was 11. I could very easily claim Port-au-Prince. But I don't because I was aware of this problem and I am not ashamed of being born in La Vallee de Jacmel. It is a beautiful place with beautiful people. It's very cool in the morning and once the sun goes down a symphony starts to play in your ears. LOL The air is so clean. Being there is literally like being inside of a painting because the colors are so rich and amazing. We need to embrace the diversity of our country because each place have something wonderful to offer.

You are so right, that's exactly my thoughts. Once everything else in the county is equally distributed people will be less ashame to say where they are from. If they knew what they have, such beauty and natural resources yo pa tap kache riches sa yo.

[philosophenoir]

Mwen te ka dako ak tout sa nou di yo paske yo sanble verite san grate tet.

Men nou pa remake ke menm pwoblem nan egziste isit OZETAZINI?


2 neg rive an Haiti...youn di li sot NY lot lan di li sot Miami..Otomatikman neg neg yo lan gentan ap mennen 2 a Zero.



I have heard Jamaican discussing the same problem...where every Jamaican claims they're from Kingston.



Koz problem sa yo ta sanble inconnu.

Kom nou di ak bon devlopman nan zones rurales yo, nan provinces yo....peut etre ca peut faire naitre yon fierte, yon sens d'apartenance.....men doute ke sa ka chanje.
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[DONCUE_69]

nice topic evie, problem lan se pa port au prince selman li ye, li toupatou en haiti,
gen yon paket moun nan tout depatman leu ou mande yo ki bo yo soti, moun lan diw li soti aux cayes leu ou fe investigation moun lan soti jis duchiti....ou bien moun len gen dwa soti lan yon lokalite ki rele gwo chodye, leu li vinn lan vill la li diw se neg st marc li ye and so on....pwoblem lan se yon komplex dinferiorite tou pou moun lan montrew li eklere, leu neg sa rive potoprins li rankontre yon bebe li pap janm dil li soti gro chodiè...par crainte fanm sa ka relel gwo soulye...but leu yon moun diw li soti port-au prince se menm bagay la se poul ka montrew li sou mainl epi lap diw tou li soti boutilye, kenskoff, fermath, debussy, yon seri de kote moun tiko bon rete, men li pap janm diw li soti belair, lasalines ou bien cite soleil....bagay la se jis yon komplex dinferiote kap kale moun sa...mwen menm mwen soti aux cayes tout kote mwen passe mwen toujou dil epi leu neg potoprens ap fe interessan avem lekol,yo relem abitan dekore mwen di yo al nan geography ya we keu " la ville des cayes est une ville plate et bien tracee.." se potoprens ki vinn aprann mwen monte morne...
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[Sanrick]

Bon problem sa menm lekol yo pratike'l.

Yo fe'w pense ke eleve ki lekol nan Lycee a or ki Lekol Carrefour, pa kamarad lot ki lekol kay Mere Lalue etc...

Mwen toujours di tout moun kote'm soti Carrefour et parents mwen soti Camp-Perrin. Pas gen shame la menm paske Camp-Perrin se yon nan pi belle kote nan pays nou.

Nice Post Evie!
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[SIROMYEL]

Quote:

pwoblem lan se yon komplex dinferiorite tou pou moun lan montrew li eklere

Yes. But ki moun ki kreye konplex d'infoeriorite an lakay moun nan.

Si moun andeyo santi yo inferye, se paske moun la ville panse yo superye.

Si tout la jounen on lot moun ap rele ou moun sot, moun andeyo... wouldn't that create an inferiority complex in you?

If you hear something long enough you learn to believe it.

And I've come to find out that most times, moun la ville are not that much smarter than moun andeyo.


In fact most moun ayiti se on ekip moun sot. Youn pa vo lot. ETUDIANTS EGAL EGAUX AK S'K PA KONN LI YO.
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