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[PhizUniq]

Mezanmi sa Yanvaloo santi konsa, hein?

Sanble nouvo virus "tèt yo cho" ki deyò a pran w' tou? M' konnen ou gen remèd pou li tou wi.

Ti mesieu, sèvi avè yo pou mwen. Yo ranse twòp nan tèt moun ak pawòl anpil vòlè this vòlè that.

Hahaha!
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Yo di djaz sa frekan... Se pa fòt nou. Nou just RESAN!

[pushist2000]

Nou pran moun pou imbecil, mwin still ap tan preuve.

Kote ou tal lekol music, Kunta,. kay meussiue t-Vice yo

Konye nou konpran.

A la audacieu. Mwin kite sujet sa parce que gin trop audace sou KM.

Public la a bay verite a kan mem. Nou met tal cheche music an 1950, 1960, 1970, 80, 90, 2000, 2010, 2020 toujou

Kitem' Viv=Kite'm Vole. Epi that's it

[DJ Pepla]

Si'm konpran post sa byen. Paske djaz lontan yo se djaz lontan, djaz ki vini apre yo aprann nan men yo; yon djaz nouvel generasyon pa ka fe yon bagay pou yon lot copye sou li? Adje woyyyy.

Kunta and Yanvaloo, I have respect for the knowlegde you have displayed here but I'm sorry I can't agree with this one. A sound in the past could in fact renew today; in another word, a new generation band could get their inspiration from an older generation band to reproduce a sound and make it their own. When a band takes an older sound change it and get it to the level to please this generation, if another band takes that same exact sound reproduce it the same exact way, that band copy from the other. You guys make it seem like there is no such thing as copy this copy that when it comes to a new generation band; it should be an older generation. I DISAGREE.

The Djakout/T-Vice issue is ridiculous I agree but the later scenario proved that one band copied from another rather it is Djakout or T-Vice. I am not buying that an older band did it before that is where the newer band took the concept therefore another band can’t copy what has inspired the newer band to make it this generation liking. Are you guys really taken the time to comprehend what you are saying here.

Answer this question. Have you ever set up you division table just like your teacher in Haiti and you did division exactly how your teacher did it and you understood the division table better than some of your classmates and ended up being the focus of the class where one or two classmates copied your work?

Epi Yanvaloo, ki bagay Gypsies se papa neg yo wap vini di la; ah mon che pa fe’m sa. Ki sa li vle di?

[DJ Pepla]

PhizUniq wrote:

Mezanmi sa Yanvaloo santi konsa, hein? Sanble nouvo virus "tèt yo cho" ki deyò a pran w' tou? M' konnen ou gen remèd pou li tou wi. Ti mesieu, sèvi avè yo pou mwen. Yo ranse twòp nan tèt moun ak pawòl anpil vòlè this vòlè that. Hahaha!

Gade Phiz ap pedi kontrol li pran poz mizisyen li an pat vini sou board la pou li reclame groove la. Mesye nou menm fanatik Vice sa yo.

[VALBOSKI]

Kunta and Yanvaloo,
I have great respect for you guys, but you guys let me down today. What you guys are talking about has nothing to do with plagiarism. Guys, the grooves are identical. The fact still remains that one of these bands stole the groove from the other. I would like to know which one did it.
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"The secret of life is not to do what one likes, but to try to like what one has to do." - DINAH MULOCH CRAIK

[Kunta]

You guys missed the whole point. My point is that the fight is about a sound that was there before both bands. That guitar swing has been part of compas, and I don't see any reason for this argument. I am just trying to tell you guys to just give up.

If that is the case, why not fight over "compas break"? There are variation of "compas break", but at the end they are the same. Many sound alike. At the end of the day, it is part of compas. This is the same concept with that guitar groov...it is the same concept with different melody variation. It is like taking an artist work and reword around trying to disguised it. You take the conga for example: the same rythm is played by all compas conga player. When a gongist do a solo, it sounds like any other solo, but it is the way the gong is played. It was not a pure solo, just a guitar swing once again.

I can see if it was a solo, but that was not a solo. The guitar was just providing a swing. Just because the guitar was louder, it is not what we would call a guitar solo. If I take it to court, the judge will throw it out.
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HERE'S WHAT A FULL BAND LOOKS LIKE

Last edited by Kunta on Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:43 am; edited 2 times in total

[daphnee]

Kunta wrote:

Now this is for the DJAKOUT fans: This is from original VOLE PONPE band of HMI. This is the COMPAS ending of Carnival ZOMBI (1983). This song fits the mentality of my generation. "GADE YON LA PAIN, GADE YO SEZISMAN...OU KONEN M SEZI!!!" Just listen to Eddie Woolly on the guitar. Let me remind you guys that Eddie played a string instrument, not a progamable instrument pretending the band is throwing some guitar groov when it is from a machine. USE A REAL GUITAR than BRAG about at least! DP EXPRESS' ZONBI COMPAS

Never heard this song before but I like it...honestly Kunta thank you for your input it is very much appreciated your Compas knowledege is impeccable...I'll listen to all the other samples before I tell you if I hear any similarities. Quick question are you trying to compare the Djakout and T-Vice groove that is being disputed most recently or are you just trying to show how in the history of Compas there has always been the variations of guitar riffs because as of now I'm having a hard time hearing the similarities between all of them...I definitely heard the similarities between them on the Haiamierican post though...I'll get back at you though. Thanks again!!!
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"Mwen di non, AYITI PAP KRAZE!!!!"

[Kunta]

Daph tune out the percussions. The percussion will give you a different feel. The guitar rift they are fighting over is more like "ban deye" rather a solo instrument. That is what I am trying to tell you guys...you can't fight over basic sound in compas. Yes it may sound teh same by both bands, but it was not a solo. It is nothing for me to say wow here is the NEXT Dadou, Ti Plum, Eddie, Robert Martino, and the great ones. It is just what it is...compas swing that is normal to have.
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OU VLE LAVE LAJAN, LAGE L NAN MAYTAG LA

HERE'S WHAT A FULL BAND LOOKS LIKE

[Machiavel]

I am not a musical scholar, but it a modicum of common sense will allow us to understand Kunta's point. One Syncopation/swing can have slight variations that may not be obvious to the ears at first. For instance, how many of you know that Bizet's "Carmen" is an habanera, a variation of the contradanza from Cuba. The piano is simply subtituted for the percussions.

[daphnee]

Ok Kunta...after hearing it several times I got it....its really the central guitar riff that just slightly different for everyone. Some sped it up, others slowed it down and added more percussion to it. But do you consider this stealing??? I'm not placing blame on anyone here in particular but it seems as if this is something that's prevalent to Compas nowadays period. I forget what song I was listening to recently and my father pointed out that some band back in the day had just about the same guitar riff as well. I guess the musical inspiration now for these current bands come from their predecessors and there's nothing wrong with that but I see your point in saying that all of this is petty because no one really owned that particular guitar riff and their really just different variations. So now my question is...is there really a point to all of this...Is there really a band in particular that deserves more of the credit than the other, bottom line who's the real owner of this particular guitar riff because honestly they're all slightly different and they are not exact replicas.
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