KOMPA! MAGAZINE

[zipgenel]

Our industry is "a lanve"... everything is upside down...

musics that have all the potential to become hits, are sitting at the bottom of the pile.. while musics that are basically remix or "bouyon rechofe" are chilling at the top. I'm saying Damn!! to myself.. why is that?
if we're looking at the big hits recently, they came from groups like Nu-look, Djakout, Carimi and T-vice.. but one thing we can noticed, these groups basically just give us a remix of their previous success (maybe not t-vice)..
am asking myself, is it that the fans in this industry are so biased, or really don't care about good musics... or could it be another problem bigger than we thought? THE DJ'S AND RADIO PERSONALITIES... although "GRESE MEN" is a form of marketing, our dj's for that particular reason is holding the progression of our industry.. these guys are only playing songs of whomever give them a little something on the side..and little "chadawout" hey.. who am I to judge? after all the mortgage has to be paid... but, no wonder that people don't listen to Radio shows anymore, they just buy CD's of four bands.. and play them over and over again.. until they get tired of them.. but don't know about other good songs on other albums that could satisfy their needs to listen to good musics...
for example... "LAJAN" by dola, great song, great lyrics... "MAL" mizik mizik, "TI MAFI" krezi, "YOU'RE THE ONE" beljaz... and many more..

why is it that Radio stations are no longer the place to find out about great musics and new bands?
_________________
P.P.P= PIYAY POU PIPO
PIPO= PI HIGH PI WO

[croixdesbouquets]

U MADE A LOT OF GOOD POINT, DONT JUST BLAME THE DJ'S WE THE CONSUMER ARE ALSO BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM.WE DONT BUY NEW BAND CDS WE DONT GO TO THEIR PARTIES.ITS IN OUR DNA WE HAITIAN CONSUMER DONT LIKE CHANGE.ITS SAD BUT TRUE
_________________

[Haitianone]

Payola, the people that pay get their music played epi fini. Its wrong but that is why it is what it is.
_________________
Statehood or Bust

[RoiHenri]

SE POU SA MWEN DI, SI OU PA GEN BON BACK UP, PA VIN FE DJAZZ. LET US RECOGNIZE THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST THIS IS A BUSINESS. SO ONE HAS TO INVEST, EITHER IN THE DJ'S THE MEDIA AND EVEN INTERNET SOLDIERS TO PUT YOUR BRAND OUT THERE... NAME RECOGNITION, RELATION AND GOOD MUSIC ALONE WON'T GET YOU TO THE TOP.

ONE HAS TO REALIZE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND BE WILLING TO SERVE THEIR DEMANDS. UNTIL THEN, OU MET TE COMPOZE HIT SOU HIT, WAP RET NAN MENM PLAS LA.

LET'S TAKE HARMONIC FOR AN EXAMPLE. THEY'RE NOT PLAYING ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL TILL THIS POINT, BUT GUESS WHAT, ALL THE BUZZ HAVE DRAWN ME INTO THEM, AND THEY GAVE ME A GOOD REASON TO BE STUCK BECAUSE OF THEIR FEMALE FOLLOWERS. CAN YOU BLAME ME IF I DON'T DO THE SAME FOR GABEL (JUST AN EXAMPLE )

[yef]

what you are seing here is purely generational! and It's a marketing issue. The generation that the DJs cater to will not feel comfortable dancing Mal in the clubs. That's not what they are into. By the way, this song did not go unnoticed. It did what it had to do. There has been a lot of healing going on in Haiti and this song had a lot to do it.

Lajan by dola is another hot track on the album-- dare I blame promotion?

As far as Ti Mafi is concerned, the song did its time. It used to be played in the clubs regularly.

As far as beljaz's "you are the one," it's being played, but they just released a video for "ou fou pou li". By doing so, they cut the momemtum of "you are the one" short.
_________________
"I think I have managed to pay respect to some of my childhood heroes but my most important work is always ahead of me."

-Fabrice Rouzier

[kattdakitten]

yef wrote:

what you are seing here is purely generational! and It's a marketing issue. The generation that the DJs cater to will not feel comfortable dancing Mal in the clubs. That's not what they are into. By the way, this song did not go unnoticed. It did what it had to do. There has been a lot of healing going on in Haiti and this song had a lot to do it.

This is beyond sad because "bad taste" has nothing to do with the generation onto which one was born. Almost like anything else, musical education begins at home. I mean if a child grew listening to a vast array of music, most likely s/he will develop an ear for music and not just ONE sound. I think the problem is he fact we lack that musical background. We then come in age where we go to bal, house parties, Dj's ect and that's where many of us here begin to get familiar with "le son du jour" i.e whatever is currently HOT out there which for the past decade or so has been nothing but pure noise. No matter how much marketing is done of a far better album from a new band than an old band, a mind who is accustomed to "The Zobodop Zobodop" and the"leve men nou anlè" will choose their bouyon rechofe any days. How can you blame them when they don't know nay better or when Gaye pay is to them "bon jan danse konpa".


As for most DJ's, I think they simply adapt "The Demand and Supply" theory meaning they tend to their clueless crowd instead of introducing them to a variety. In other words, unless one knows what"Good Music " sounds like, how would one then recognize" Good Music" when one's ears are deaf to it?
_________________
[b]My mind is as free, as wild, & as vast as the ocean. Care to describe yours to me?

Last edited by kattdakitten on Fri May 08, 2009 4:58 pm; edited 1 time in total

[yef]

kattdakitten wrote:

This is beyond sad because "bad taste" has nothing to do with the generation onto which one was born. Almost like anything else, musical education begins at home. I mean if a child grew listening to a vast array of music, most likely s/he will develop an ear for music and not just ONE sound. I think the problem is he fact we lack that musical background. We then come in age where we go to bal, house parties, Dj's ect and that's where many of us here begin to get familiar with "le son du jour" i.e whatever is currently HOT out there which for the past decade or so has been nothing but pure noise. No matter how much marketing is done of a far better album from a new band than an old band, a mind who is accustomed to "The Zobodop Zobodop" and the"leve men nou anlè" will choose their bouyon rechofe any days. How can you blame them when they don't know nay better or when Gaye pay is to them "bon jan danse konpa". As for most DJ's, I think they simply adapt "The Demand and Supply" theory meaning they tend to their clueless crowd instead of introducing them to a variety. In other words, unless one knows what"Good Music " sounds, how would one then recognize" Good Music" when one ears are deaf to it?

kattdakitten, I think you and I are in agreement as to what good music is. But unfortunately, the HMI market in the US is increasingly becoming more and more like the AMI and there's not much anyone can do. (You know..the whole "put your hands up....when I say Hip, you say hop"...) I say it's generational because this generation will always go for the bouyon rechofe. Like you said, it's all about the supply and the demand. But I wouldn't go as far as calling it bad taste. It's rather "the taste of the times".

Also, bands can NOT afford to not have their fans put their hands up. It's important. It shows that the crowd was into it. If you look at the party pictures on KM, you know what i mean.
_________________
"I think I have managed to pay respect to some of my childhood heroes but my most important work is always ahead of me."

-Fabrice Rouzier

[kattdakitten]

yef wrote:

kattdakitten wrote: This is beyond sad because "bad taste" has nothing to do with the generation onto which one was born. Almost like anything else, musical education begins at home. I mean if a child grew listening to a vast array of music, most likely s/he will develop an ear for music and not just ONE sound. I think the problem is he fact we lack that musical background. We then come in age where we go to bal, house parties, Dj's ect and that's where many of us here begin to get familiar with "le son du jour" i.e whatever is currently HOT out there which for the past decade or so has been nothing but pure noise. No matter how much marketing is done of a far better album from a new band than an old band, a mind who is accustomed to "The Zobodop Zobodop" and the"leve men nou anlè" will choose their "bouyon rechofe" any days. How can you blame them when they don't know nay better or when Gaye pay is to them "bon jan danse konpa". As for most DJ's, I think they simply adapt "The Demand and Supply" theory meaning they tend to their clueless crowd instead of introducing them to a variety. In other words, unless one knows what"Good Music " sounds-like, how would one then recognize" Good Music" when one's ears are deaf to it? kattdakitten, I think you and I are in agreement as to what good music is. But unfortunately, the HMI market in the US is increasingly becoming more and more like the AMI and there's not much anyone can do. (You know..the whole "put your hands up....when I say Hip, you say hop"...) I say it's generational because this generation will always go for the bouyon rechofe. Like you said, it's all about the supply and the demand. But I wouldn't go as far as calling it bad taste. It's rather "the taste of the times". Also, bands can NOT afford to not have their fans put their hands up. It's important. It shows that the crowd was into it. If you look at the party pictures on KM, you know what i mean.

I read you! I guess I am not of this generation MUSICALLY. Although you'll catch me every now and then with my "men anlè" when that good guitar sound penetrates a certain nerve but that's hardly due to the noise. Enfin! It's a sad phenomenon nonetheless. Janm renmen danse bon konpa avek yon bon boubout byen santi bon.
_________________
[b]My mind is as free, as wild, & as vast as the ocean. Care to describe yours to me?

Last edited by kattdakitten on Fri May 08, 2009 5:04 pm; edited 1 time in total

[yef]

kattdakitten wrote:

yef wrote: kattdakitten wrote: This is beyond sad because "bad taste" has nothing to do with the generation onto which one was born. Almost like anything else, musical education begins at home. I mean if a child grew listening to a vast array of music, most likely s/he will develop an ear for music and not just ONE sound. I think the problem is he fact we lack that musical background. We then come in age where we go to bal, house parties, Dj's ect and that's where many of us here begin to get familiar with "le son du jour" i.e whatever is currently HOT out there which for the past decade or so has been nothing but pure noise. No matter how much marketing is done of a far better album from a new band than an old band, a mind who is accustomed to "The Zobodop Zobodop" and the"leve men nou anlè" will choose their "bouyon rechofe" any days. How can you blame them when they don't know nay better or when Gaye pay is to them "bon jan danse konpa". As for most DJ's, I think they simply adapt "The Demand and Supply" theory meaning they tend to their clueless crowd instead of introducing them to a variety. In other words, unless one knows what"Good Music " sounds, how would one then recognize" Good Music" when one ears are deaf to it? kattdakitten, I think you and I are in agreement as to what good music is. But unfortunately, the HMI market in the US is increasingly becoming more and more like the AMI and there's not much anyone can do. (You know..the whole "put your hands up....when I say Hip, you say hop"...) I say it's generational because this generation will always go for the bouyon rechofe. Like you said, it's all about the supply and the demand. But I wouldn't go as far as calling it bad taste. It's rather "the taste of the times". Also, bands can NOT afford to not have their fans put their hands up. It's important. It shows that the crowd was into it. If you look at the party pictures on KM, you know what i mean. I read you! I guess I am not of this generation MUSICALLY. Although you'll catch me every now and then with my "men anlè" when that good guitar sound penetrates a certain nerve but that's hardly due to the noise. Enfin! It's a sad phenomenon nonetheless. Janm renmen danse bon konpa avek yon bon boubout byen santi bon.

ou pa tande
_________________
"I think I have managed to pay respect to some of my childhood heroes but my most important work is always ahead of me."

-Fabrice Rouzier

[kattdakitten]

yef wrote:

kattdakitten wrote: yef wrote: kattdakitten wrote: This is beyond sad because "bad taste" has nothing to do with the generation onto which one was born. Almost like anything else, musical education begins at home. I mean if a child grew listening to a vast array of music, most likely s/he will develop an ear for music and not just ONE sound. I think the problem is he fact we lack that musical background. We then come in age where we go to bal, house parties, Dj's ect and that's where many of us here begin to get familiar with "le son du jour" i.e whatever is currently HOT out there which for the past decade or so has been nothing but pure noise. No matter how much marketing is done of a far better album from a new band than an old band, a mind who is accustomed to "The Zobodop Zobodop" and the"leve men nou anlè" will choose their "bouyon rechofe" any days. How can you blame them when they don't know nay better or when Gaye pay is to them "bon jan danse konpa". As for most DJ's, I think they simply adapt "The Demand and Supply" theory meaning they tend to their clueless crowd instead of introducing them to a variety. In other words, unless one knows what"Good Music " sounds, how would one then recognize" Good Music" when one ears are deaf to it? kattdakitten, I think you and I are in agreement as to what good music is. But unfortunately, the HMI market in the US is increasingly becoming more and more like the AMI and there's not much anyone can do. (You know..the whole "put your hands up....when I say Hip, you say hop"...) I say it's generational because this generation will always go for the bouyon rechofe. Like you said, it's all about the supply and the demand. But I wouldn't go as far as calling it bad taste. It's rather "the taste of the times". Also, bands can NOT afford to not have their fans put their hands up. It's important. It shows that the crowd was into it. If you look at the party pictures on KM, you know what i mean. I read you! I guess I am not of this generation MUSICALLY. Although you'll catch me every now and then with my "men anlè" when that good guitar sound penetrates a certain nerve but that's hardly due to the noise. Enfin! It's a sad phenomenon nonetheless. Janm renmen danse bon konpa avek yon bon boubout byen santi bon. ou pa tande

Euuuuuuhhhh! Tout rantre nan lot wi! Good music usually makes you want to do things, you know! M pa bezwen konnen sa yon moun di, depi yon Moun tande Dadou ki ouvri bouch li k'ap chante Ou Pila, Bagay la ap pran-w kan menm! Or Even Alan kap chante "Lage-m" oubyen "Ma Rose"! Ay Cono!
_________________
[b]My mind is as free, as wild, & as vast as the ocean. Care to describe yours to me?

Last edited by kattdakitten on Fri May 08, 2009 4:48 pm; edited 1 time in total