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LadyKreyol



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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I personally think having 2 carnivals is overkill and takes away the specialness of true carnival time BUT having the second one does give Haiti an ecoonomic boost which makes me get over it.
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

LadyKreyol wrote:
I personally think having 2 carnivals is overkill and takes away the specialness of true carnival time BUT having the second one does give Haiti an ecoonomic boost which makes me get over it.


Agree!

Pi Gwo bagay MARTELLY fe ke anpil moun gen dwa pa konprann Jodi an, men a l'avenir ap gen yon grande significance se retire celebration 3-4 jours carnavalesque la port au prince..
Men yonn nan pi Gwo erreur ke'l fe tou se ajoute kanaval des fleurs pou sezon ete an..

En ete, department diaspora an demobilize anyway.. Se en ete billet d'avion pi cher.. En general mwen pa kwe ke peyi antre plis kob pase sa ak kanaval des fleurs an ke pa t'ap antre san li..
Pwoblem anko.. M'suspek ke akoz period kanaval des fleurs sa.. AMERICAN AIRLINES tou pwofite ABUZE 10eme department an san rezon!

Pou mwen mouvman kanaval des fleurs an se pa anyen de plus li rapote peyi an..
Mouvman chak ane kanaval la nan yon ville difference lan bon.. Sa permet ke anpil moun ki konprann ke ayiti se potoprens selman, piti a piti ap dekouvri peyi an!
M'konnen yon paket neg okap ki t'al nan kanaval okay la ki ap pale anpil de zone nan kom etant donne yo pat janm konn fe WOUT sud lan, e menm jan an tou M'konnen anpil neg okay ki t'al okap ane pase k'ap pale de zone nan..

Li bon nan tout sans.. Men afe deux kanaval la se gaspiye tan!
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

onelove for haiti wrote:
Mwen kont 2 kanaval nan lakou lakay...

1) pa gen ogenn touris ki rantre vrèman,si gen touris se nou diaspora a ki ale epi Diaspora a toujou desann Kay fanmi yo pa janm desann nan Otel vrèman.. Epi nan epok sa se epok pi fò Ayisyen toujou desann nan fet chanpet ki donk Kanaval dè flè pa pote anyen nan ekonomi peyi a Okontrè se detwi li dewi'l.

2)Aprè yon mwa lekol pral ouvè pot li nan lakou lakay Kob sa te ka sèvi pou gouvènman an edé rantre lekol la se yon gaspiyaj total kapital...sa se opinyon Pam.


@ONELOVE......YOU WRONG BRO.....WAP PALE DE YON BAGAY LA KOTE'W PA GEN OKIN IDE DE SA WAP PALE A.....2 KANAVAL NAN PEYI A TRE BON ....NAN NINPOT SANS OU VLE PRAN'L

1- LI EDE ECONOMI PEYI A PASKE SE PA TOUT MOUN KI DESANN AYITI NAN MWA SA KI PRAL NAN FET CHAMPET..ANPIL MOUN DESAN..E SE PA TOUT MOUN KI DESAN'N LAKAY FANMI YO, SE PA TOUT MOUN KI GEN FANMI AYITI

2-NAN MOMAN WAP PALE A LA ANPIL HOTEL AVEK PA MIN'M GEN CHAMBRE VIDE ANKOR NAN MOMAN SA LA..

3-AVION PA GEN PLAS...TOUT VOL YO BOURE...MWEN MIN'M KI AP PALE AVEW LA SE SANTO DOMINGO MWEN PRAL PASE POU'M ANTRE AYITI

4-MWEN PANSE KANAVAL NAN CHAK PROVINS YO SE YON BRILLIANT IDE LI YE REZON 1- PROVINS SA YO PAJANM GEN YON GRO ACTIVITE KONSA POU PLIS KE 3 JOU MOUN SOTI TOUT KOTE AVAN 3 JOU GRA A...HOTEL YO FE KOB, TI MACHAN YO FE KOB, RESTAURANT YO FE KOB, PLAJ YO FE KOB, PUMP GAZOLINE YO FE KOB. POU PLIS KE 5 JOU TOUT BAGAY NAN ZONE SA BYEN MACHE

5- TOURIS PA VLE DI LOT NATION SELMAN....GEN TOURIS LOCAL..EXAMP.. YON NEG KI FET JAKMEL KI POKO JAN'M ALE OKAP, SIL TE GEN CHANS PATISIPE NA KANAVAL LA KI SOT FET OKAP LA, LI SE YON TOURIST LOCAL..LI POTE KOB NAN ZONE SA...PASKE FOK LI DOMI NAN YON HOTEL, FOK LI MANGE, BWE ECT...

6-ANPIL GRO COMPANY AP SPONSORIZE BAND YO, AK DJ YO TOUT SA YO SE KOB KI AP FET

7-BOSS CHAPANT YO KI AP METE KANPE STAN YO , BOS ELECTRICIEN YO...TOUT SA YO SE KOB KI AP FET

8-RADIO FE KOB, TELEVISION FE KOB...PASKE FOK MIRENGUE KANAVAL YO AK VIDEO YO PASE NAN L'AIR..

MWEN DAKOR AVEK OU NAN SANS KE ANPIL MOUN TOUJOU DESAN'N NAN SEZON SA POU FET CHANPET...OUI SA SON VERITE..MIN AKOZ DE KANAVAL LA GEN PLIS MOUN KI DESAN'N JUSTE POU KANAVAL LA, MWEN SELMAN GEN 13 ZANMI'M KI AP DESAN'N DEMIN MATIN SELMAN POU KANAVAL LA YAP MONTE MERCREDI....JUSTE POU MWEN POUVE'W SE PA FET CHAMPET LA SELMAN KI FE MOUN ANTRE.....LE'W KANPE SOU CHANMAS...WAP GADE VALEU MACHAN'N KI AP SIKILE NAN VIL LA KI AP VAN'N POU PLIS KE 5 JOU DEPI A 4hr PM POU JIS 4hr AM...SE PA RANS

EPI YON PEYI SAN TRAVAY, LAVI DI, STRESS AK PRESION LAVI AP TOUYE MOUN....LI BON POU MOUN YO JWEN YON ACTIVITE...POU DEFOULE YO
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

joudre wrote:
LadyKreyol wrote:
I personally think having 2 carnivals is overkill and takes away the specialness of true carnival time BUT having the second one does give Haiti an ecoonomic boost which makes me get over it.


Agree!

Pi Gwo bagay MARTELLY fe ke anpil moun gen dwa pa konprann Jodi an, men a l'avenir ap gen yon grande significance se retire celebration 3-4 jours carnavalesque la port au prince..
Men yonn nan pi Gwo erreur ke'l fe tou se ajoute kanaval des fleurs pou sezon ete an..

En ete, department diaspora an demobilize anyway.. Se en ete billet d'avion pi cher.. En general mwen pa kwe ke peyi antre plis kob pase sa ak kanaval des fleurs an ke pa t'ap antre san li..
Pwoblem anko.. M'suspek ke akoz period kanaval des fleurs sa.. AMERICAN AIRLINES tou pwofite ABUZE 10eme department an san rezon!

Pou mwen mouvman kanaval des fleurs an se pa anyen de plus li rapote peyi an..
Mouvman chak ane kanaval la nan yon ville difference lan bon.. Sa permet ke anpil moun ki konprann ke ayiti se potoprens selman, piti a piti ap dekouvri peyi an!
M'konnen yon paket neg okap ki t'al nan kanaval okay la ki ap pale anpil de zone nan kom etant donne yo pat janm konn fe WOUT sud lan, e menm jan an tou M'konnen anpil neg okay ki t'al okap ane pase k'ap pale de zone nan..

@JOUDRE...ZANMI'M WAP BYEN PALE WI LA...MWEN DKOR AK TOUT SA'W DI YO LA EXCEPT " KANAVAL DES FLEUR A PA POTE PLIS KOB NAN PEYI A"...SA MWEN PA FI'N DKOR...MIN SE PANDAN JAN'W DIL LA AA.COM TOU PROFITE TOUYE NOU...PASKE TICKET YO NAN ZONE $700 MONTE...SA'M TA RENMIN MANDE ESKE GOUVERNMAN NOU AN PA GEN YON BAGAY YO KA FE NAN SA POU LOT ANNE KI AP VINI YO? ESKE PA GEN RESTRIKSYON YO KA METE SOU AA.COM TANKOU " KAP, YON MAXIMUM YO PAKA DEPASE"..MWEN KON NIN SA ON TI JAN IMPOSIB MIN MWEN JUSTE MANDE KANMEME...
Li bon nan tout sans.. Men afe deux kanaval la se gaspiye tan!

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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Carnaval should be done once a year in Port-au-Prince and leave it at that. There's a lot more productive activities that can be done with the $19M that's allocated for this year's Carnaval des Fleures.

Kite yon sel Kanaval la epi that's it.
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Gromosso wrote:
Carnaval should be done once a year in Port-au-Prince and leave it at that. There's a lot more productive activities that can be done with the $19M that's allocated for this year's Carnaval des Fleures.

Kite yon sel Kanaval la epi that's it.


So se $19M ki pral depanse pou kanaval des fleurs? Woww!!!
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 KANAVALS YEARLY: WHY ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST IT? Reply with quote Back to top

I'm all against it. You always here how much money they spend on the carnival, but never heard how much they bring in. The idea is bringing tourist in the country, it's an excuse. One carnival is too many right now.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

AGAINTS.... ENOUGH MONEY IS SPENT ON THE REGULAR KANAVAL WITHOUT THE BENEFITS WE ARE SUPPOSE TO REAP FROM IT.

But I do like the idea of having one kanaval in a different city every year.

I think kanaval is for the benefit of port-au-prince since the kanaval is not done there every year anymore.
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If I were in charge of the country, I would use the Carnival des Fleurs budget to hire more police.
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 PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Deutch wrote:
onelove for haiti wrote:
Mwen kont 2 kanaval nan lakou lakay...

1) pa gen ogenn touris ki rantre vrèman,si gen touris se nou diaspora a ki ale epi Diaspora a toujou desann Kay fanmi yo pa janm desann nan Otel vrèman.. Epi nan epok sa se epok pi fò Ayisyen toujou desann nan fet chanpet ki donk Kanaval dè flè pa pote anyen nan ekonomi peyi a Okontrè se detwi li dewi'l.

2)Aprè yon mwa lekol pral ouvè pot li nan lakou lakay Kob sa te ka sèvi pou gouvènman an edé rantre lekol la se yon gaspiyaj total kapital...sa se opinyon Pam.


@ONELOVE......YOU WRONG BRO.....WAP PALE DE YON BAGAY LA KOTE'W PA GEN OKIN IDE DE SA WAP PALE A.....2 KANAVAL NAN PEYI A TRE BON ....NAN NINPOT SANS OU VLE PRAN'L

1- LI EDE ECONOMI PEYI A PASKE SE PA TOUT MOUN KI DESANN AYITI NAN MWA SA KI PRAL NAN FET CHAMPET..ANPIL MOUN DESAN..E SE PA TOUT MOUN KI DESAN'N LAKAY FANMI YO, SE PA TOUT MOUN KI GEN FANMI AYITI

2-NAN MOMAN WAP PALE A LA ANPIL HOTEL AVEK PA MIN'M GEN CHAMBRE VIDE ANKOR NAN MOMAN SA LA..

3-AVION PA GEN PLAS...TOUT VOL YO BOURE...MWEN MIN'M KI AP PALE AVEW LA SE SANTO DOMINGO MWEN PRAL PASE POU'M ANTRE AYITI

4-MWEN PANSE KANAVAL NAN CHAK PROVINS YO SE YON BRILLIANT IDE LI YE REZON 1- PROVINS SA YO PAJANM GEN YON GRO ACTIVITE KONSA POU PLIS KE 3 JOU MOUN SOTI TOUT KOTE AVAN 3 JOU GRA A...HOTEL YO FE KOB, TI MACHAN YO FE KOB, RESTAURANT YO FE KOB, PLAJ YO FE KOB, PUMP GAZOLINE YO FE KOB. POU PLIS KE 5 JOU TOUT BAGAY NAN ZONE SA BYEN MACHE

5- TOURIS PA VLE DI LOT NATION SELMAN....GEN TOURIS LOCAL..EXAMP.. YON NEG KI FET JAKMEL KI POKO JAN'M ALE OKAP, SIL TE GEN CHANS PATISIPE NA KANAVAL LA KI SOT FET OKAP LA, LI SE YON TOURIST LOCAL..LI POTE KOB NAN ZONE SA...PASKE FOK LI DOMI NAN YON HOTEL, FOK LI MANGE, BWE ECT...

6-ANPIL GRO COMPANY AP SPONSORIZE BAND YO, AK DJ YO TOUT SA YO SE KOB KI AP FET

7-BOSS CHAPANT YO KI AP METE KANPE STAN YO , BOS ELECTRICIEN YO...TOUT SA YO SE KOB KI AP FET

8-RADIO FE KOB, TELEVISION FE KOB...PASKE FOK MIRENGUE KANAVAL YO AK VIDEO YO PASE NAN L'AIR..

MWEN DAKOR AVEK OU NAN SANS KE ANPIL MOUN TOUJOU DESAN'N NAN SEZON SA POU FET CHANPET...OUI SA SON VERITE..MIN AKOZ DE KANAVAL LA GEN PLIS MOUN KI DESAN'N JUSTE POU KANAVAL LA, MWEN SELMAN GEN 13 ZANMI'M KI AP DESAN'N DEMIN MATIN SELMAN POU KANAVAL LA YAP MONTE MERCREDI....JUSTE POU MWEN POUVE'W SE PA FET CHAMPET LA SELMAN KI FE MOUN ANTRE.....LE'W KANPE SOU CHANMAS...WAP GADE VALEU MACHAN'N KI AP SIKILE NAN VIL LA KI AP VAN'N POU PLIS KE 5 JOU DEPI A 4hr PM POU JIS 4hr AM...SE PA RANS

EPI YON PEYI SAN TRAVAY, LAVI DI, STRESS AK PRESION LAVI AP TOUYE MOUN....LI BON POU MOUN YO JWEN YON ACTIVITE...POU DEFOULE YO


Mon ami Pri avyon moute se yon politik demagoji...Konbyen etranjé ou pral wè Channmas. Se toujou menm ekip Ayisyen yo ki konn abitye rantre nan Lakou lakay chak Ane nan fet chanpet. Se propagann Gouvennman an ap fè , se gaspiye kob pou gran mèsi pandansetan ti pep la paka voye pitit li lekol,Zanmi Pam Ann pa kite fanatism pote nou ale nou se Ayisyen entérè nou tout sipoze pou Ayiti Paske se peyi nou li ye...flè vle di bote eske pòtoprenz sanble avek flè vre...Pil fatra moute men otè epi Gouvennman an ap pale kanaval dè flè KITE'M ri neg yo lolllll...wi mwen pou yon sel kanaval nan lakou lakay chak ane nan yon vil diferan men zafè kanaval dè flè a se blanchi neg yo ap blanchi $1,50 nou an...demanti'm si'w kapab
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