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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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Jay Brooklyn
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 21884 Location: Brooklyn, USA |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: LET'S IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS OF THE HMI AND SUGGEST SOLUTIONS |
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li tres clair ke HMI la chaje ak problem...
nou toujou ap pleyen men se rare nou bay suggestions.
mwen ouvri post sa'a pou tout moun vinn pale...
an nou mete emotion ak fanatism de cote pou nou ka jere problem HMI paske a mon avis, si bagay yo kontinue facon yo ye kounyeya, biznis la pap dure pou trop longtemps...
please, se pa vinn bay pleyen selman non, sa ki pi important se propoze suggestions...
Thank you... _________________ BAT CHIEN AN, TANN MET LI! |
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konpaconvert
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7440 Location: FORT LAUDERDALE |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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hmmm where do i begin
Well i'll make it simple...the HMI is like the NFL
You have the Met Djazz (Owners) that really don't care about anything but their $$$$. By Met Djazz I mean the Martinos, Arly, gazzman/P. Fabre, Farinen/CaRiMi, R. Noel, etc.
They run the HMI and everyone is at their mercy from the fans, media, giggers, to promotoers.
yo te met fe contra avek yon promote...yo jwen yon pi bel deal yon lot kote pwomote nan AA.
Gigger ap jwen tag mercanaire paske yo pa met djazz so yo paka jamn get what they are really worth or deserve.
Fanatik paye kob yo pou yall suporte djazz yo...only to find out djazz pap jwe, or li enretard , o bien album ki te sipoze sorti pap sorti....and its everybody elses fault but the real culprit (the Met Djazz).
The SOLUTION to this problem would be to have actual record label companys and unionized Musician associations but thats wishful thinking and unrealistic |
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cuttableman21
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 2260 Location: The Big apple |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:12 am Post subject: |
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my question is, after pouring out all those suggestions on the board,would they even consider putting at least one of them into application?
This is not the first time many KM members and industry influencers have been given some solid suggestions to the HMI bands,promoters,party-goers,Government officials,producers etc... however most if not all suggested points have always been ignored,and the HMI is still not improving. |
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THEREALME
Joined: 16 Dec 2010 Posts: 544 Location: Pompano Beach - Florida |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Mwen tres dakor avek ou sou angle sa wi men nou pa ka ret la selman non,lontan lem tap grandi leu larose D.P,SCORPIO ak tout lot djaz yo soti yon album tout mizik yo te hit ,radio te jwe tout album yo a lepok pat gen tout superstar sa yo nan radio station yo ki chwazi ki djaz pou yo jwe ni solda ki pou vin kraze yon lot djaz pou djaz pal.Konia leu yon djaz fe yon album neg la diw kareman mizik sa pa rive sou li lontan se nou te konn rive sou mizik now se mizik la ki pou rive sou nou.Leu larose soti album ak missil 727 tout mizik te hit eske konnia mizik neg yo ap fe yo pa bon ou swa fanatik yo pi exigan ou bien teknologi a ki a la porte tout moun ki ta supoze rann travay mizicien yo pi fasil vin rann ni pi dificil.Weekend pase mwen te nan kreola nan Hollywood live ou konnen tidjo fe tout nuit ap rele edy wooley edy willy eske mank d'information et respect pou neg ki te pionnier kompa pa jwe yon gran role nan sa kap passe kompa jodia. _________________ THE REAL ME |
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PIYO
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: NYC |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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JayB my man,
There is no better way to lead than to do it by setting example. Our assumption might be wrong, but you seem to be well informed about the HMI. So let's lay down, according to you first, all the problems you think the HMI have. Us as member and your follower will add up to the list, we will filter the issues, and once the problems are accepted by a majority than we will dissect them and try to suggest solution.
GranMoun Pam, How about that?
PiYo... _________________ Haitian... Why Not!!! |
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Jay Brooklyn
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 21884 Location: Brooklyn, USA |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:53 am Post subject: |
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PIYO wrote: |
JayB my man,
There is no better way to lead than to do it by setting example. Our assumption might be wrong, but you seem to be well informed about the HMI. So let's lay down, according to you first, all the problems you think the HMI have. Us as member and your follower will add up to the list, we will filter the issues, and once the problems are accepted by a majority than we will dissect them and try to suggest solution.
GranMoun Pam, How about that?
PiYo... |
Patizan, this post is not about me...
it's about all of us....
mwen pa ko vle di anyen pou'l pa sanble ke map eseye force ide'm...
wap swiv HMI la lontan tou, just give your inputs....
map fe yon conclusion apres members yo finn bay input yo...
saw panse? _________________ BAT CHIEN AN, TANN MET LI! |
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PIYO
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: NYC |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Jay Brooklyn wrote: |
PIYO wrote: |
JayB my man,
There is no better way to lead than to do it by setting example. Our assumption might be wrong, but you seem to be well informed about the HMI. So let's lay down, according to you first, all the problems you think the HMI have. Us as member and your follower will add up to the list, we will filter the issues, and once the problems are accepted by a majority than we will dissect them and try to suggest solution.
GranMoun Pam, How about that?
PiYo... |
Patizan, this post is not about me...
it's about all of us....
mwen pa yo vle di anyen pou'l pa sanble ke map eseye force ide'm...
wap swiv HMI la lontan tou, just give your inputs....
map bay yon conclusion apres members yo finn bay input yo...
saw panse? |
Ou mal konpran mwen Jay. post mwen an pat pou te mande ou pou bay ide sou solution... paske apres tou "so called" sipesta yo mwen sispek se chips yo gen lan main yo le yap li KM (sauf le yo lan cho bien sure) et minm "so called Sipesta" sa yo pral di "kiyes ki PiYo a" or "JayB ya te gentan konprann li kon HMI la, men lap vinn bay solityon". So mwen pa konn pou solition paw yo la, men solition ke PiYo ta reflechi et met sou tab la se popcorn sipesta pral manje le ya li yo oubyen si yap li yo tou anyways, paske apres tou Kiyes Ki PiYo a.
Sam te mande pito se Etale ki problem ou we, sitout se ou ki initye sijet ya. Kwe'm si ou vle gen kek tan mwen debrache, pas par volonte min sikonstans lavi. But mwen te tout simplement estime ke ou pi byen positione passe'm pou ta etale problem yo. _________________ Haitian... Why Not!!! |
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Jay Brooklyn
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 21884 Location: Brooklyn, USA |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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PIYO wrote: |
Jay Brooklyn wrote: |
PIYO wrote: |
JayB my man,
There is no better way to lead than to do it by setting example. Our assumption might be wrong, but you seem to be well informed about the HMI. So let's lay down, according to you first, all the problems you think the HMI have. Us as member and your follower will add up to the list, we will filter the issues, and once the problems are accepted by a majority than we will dissect them and try to suggest solution.
GranMoun Pam, How about that?
PiYo... |
Patizan, this post is not about me...
it's about all of us....
mwen pa yo vle di anyen pou'l pa sanble ke map eseye force ide'm...
wap swiv HMI la lontan tou, just give your inputs....
map bay yon conclusion apres members yo finn bay input yo...
saw panse? |
Ou mal konpran mwen Jay. post mwen an pat pou te mande ou pou bay ide sou solution... paske apres tou "so called" sipesta yo mwen sispek se chips yo gen lan main yo le yap li KM (sauf le yo lan cho bien sure) et minm "so called Sipesta" sa yo pral di "kiyes ki PiYo a" or "JayB ya te gentan konprann li kon HMI la, men lap vinn bay solityon". So mwen pa konn pou solition paw yo la, men solition ke PiYo ta reflechi et met sou tab la se popcorn sipesta pral manje le ya li yo oubyen si yap li yo tou anyways, paske apres tou Kiyes Ki PiYo a.
Sam te mande pito se Etale ki problem ou we, sitout se ou ki initye sijet ya. Kwe'm si ou vle gen kek tan mwen debrache, pas par volonte min sikonstans lavi. But mwen te tout simplement estime ke ou pi byen positione passe'm pou ta etale problem yo. |
mwen konprann ou, Piyo..
mwen bien regret ke'w pa gen tan pou'w monte sou bod la..
ou te yon memb konsekan e ou te toujou tres objectif....e tres consistant...
mwen still pako vle di twop pou rezon ke'w mantione e ke'm mete in bold letters...
mwen panse ke se yon problem anpil atis, manager ak promoteur genyen...
yo pa vle tande okunn constructive criticism...
yo kontan leu wap fe eloj yo, leu wap voye yo monte men depi'w kesyone action yo or inaction yo, ou bon pou mouri....
yo tout konnen ke yo se expert lan tout bagay, ke yo konnen pase tout moun pandan ke li konn tres evident ke yo lan erreur...
kidonk, youn lan problem ke biznis la genyen se yon paket moun ki pa vle deal ak reyalite menm si bagay la kle devan...
yo refuze pran konsey ou byen bay moun ki kapab jere bagay ki pa ala hauteur yo.... _________________ BAT CHIEN AN, TANN MET LI! |
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PIYO
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: NYC |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Jay Brooklyn wrote: |
PIYO wrote: |
Jay Brooklyn wrote: |
PIYO wrote: |
JayB my man,
There is no better way to lead than to do it by setting example. Our assumption might be wrong, but you seem to be well informed about the HMI. So let's lay down, according to you first, all the problems you think the HMI have. Us as member and your follower will add up to the list, we will filter the issues, and once the problems are accepted by a majority than we will dissect them and try to suggest solution.
GranMoun Pam, How about that?
PiYo... |
Patizan, this post is not about me...
it's about all of us....
mwen pa yo vle di anyen pou'l pa sanble ke map eseye force ide'm...
wap swiv HMI la lontan tou, just give your inputs....
map bay yon conclusion apres members yo finn bay input yo...
saw panse? |
Ou mal konpran mwen Jay. post mwen an pat pou te mande ou pou bay ide sou solution... paske apres tou "so called" sipesta yo mwen sispek se chips yo gen lan main yo le yap li KM (sauf le yo lan cho bien sure) et minm "so called Sipesta" sa yo pral di "kiyes ki PiYo a" or "JayB ya te gentan konprann li kon HMI la, men lap vinn bay solityon". So mwen pa konn pou solition paw yo la, men solition ke PiYo ta reflechi et met sou tab la se popcorn sipesta pral manje le ya li yo oubyen si yap li yo tou anyways, paske apres tou Kiyes Ki PiYo a.
Sam te mande pito se Etale ki problem ou we, sitout se ou ki initye sijet ya. Kwe'm si ou vle gen kek tan mwen debrache, pas par volonte min sikonstans lavi. But mwen te tout simplement estime ke ou pi byen positione passe'm pou ta etale problem yo. |
mwen konprann ou, Piyo..
mwen bien regret ke'w pa gen tan pou'w monte sou bod la..
ou te yon memb konsekan e ou te toujou tres objectif....e tres consistant...
mwen still pako vle di twop pou rezon ke'w mantione e ke'm mete in bold letters...
mwen panse ke se yon problem anpil atis, manager ak promoteur genyen...
yo pa vle tande okunn constructive criticism...
yo kontan leu wap fe eloj yo, leu wap voye yo monte men depi'w kesyone action yo or inaction yo, ou bon pou mouri....
yo tout konnen ke yo se expert lan tout bagay, ke yo konnen pase tout moun pandan ke li konn tres evident ke yo lan erreur...
kidonk, youn lan problem ke biznis la genyen se yon paket moun ki pa vle deal ak reyalite menm si bagay la kle devan...yo refuze pran konsey ou byen bay moun ki kapab jere bagay ki pa ala hauteur yo.... |
Boul la lage,
problem fundamental, men gen exception...
Depi neg la sou stage li pense li sipesta, roi pa frel... Sil ta jwen yon ti groupie gason ki pa vle paye kat bal $20 et ki vle santi sel jan li pa chen fok se bo atis pou yo kanpe, se pi mal. Sil jwen yon ti groupie Fanm bon, li make it. _________________ Haitian... Why Not!!! |
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LadyKreyol
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 25784 Location: CAMBRIA HEIGHTS (QUEENS) |
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I try to make this short and sweet.
Can we all agree that Punctuality for events has been an issue plaguing the bal scene for YEARS?
What can we do? Well I think it starts with PROMOTERS. All promoters should put a clause in their agreements with bands that if they don't start at a reasonable time meaning at least 30 minutes after the official start time that it will decrease the money they are owed for the gig.
Of course, I'm not talking about technical difficulties, I'm talking about bands showing up late or BSing because they don't want to start in front of a light crowd etc.
I don't think this is a quick fix but I think it will help this problem because one way to make people shape up is to hit them in the pocket.
Paying $30+ dollars for bal is not cheap (at least to me) and I feel playing on time will at least show consumers that you are trying to give them there money's worth. _________________ Music is love in search of a word.
Sidney Lanier
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