KOMPA! MAGAZINE

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CAREL PEDRE (Radio & HMI personality) tackles the HAITI RADIO/TV stations issue that was brought up by PRINCESS EUD in an article the other day. He also goes deeper into what the problem is in the Haitian community in Haiti, as well as in the Diaspora. Check it out.



CAREL: Mon cher Pat, Pwoblem Ke Eud soulve a grav anpil. E pa pita ke yèswa mwen tap pale de sa ak Liliane Pierre Paul sou Radio Kiskeya. Tout Peyi Serye, ki gen sosyete serye toujou travay pou pwoteje sa ki pou yo, malgre fenomèn mondyalizasyon an. Men Peyi ki pi pòv yo, Ki Pi Fèb yo pa ka goumen ak fenomèn sa a si sitwayen yo pa pran konsyans epi travay pou fòse Leta pran desizyon oubyen pou yo menm pran mèzu pou rete emoraji sa yo. N’ap pale de Mizik, men li valab pou Talan nan tout domaine. Gade koman se blan ki nan tout pi gwo konpayi nou gen nan peyi a, Tout ONG yo se blan kap dirije ayisyen. Pwoblèm nan rive la a tou.
(ENGLISH) The problem that EUD brought up is extremely bad. Last night I was talking about that to Lilianne Pierre on Radio Kiskeya. Every serious country with a serious culture always work to push what is their own. Having said that, the countries that are the poorest and weakest CAN'T FIGHT against this phenomenon if the citizens of those countries don't force their government to take action, or if they the fans don't do it themselves. We're talking about music, but it also applies to talent all around. Look at how it's foreigners that are part of all the big companies in the country. All the ONG's are being directed/managed by foreigners. The problem is all around.
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CAREL: Pou koze radio kap jwe mizik etranje yo, M kw eke Eud k’ap fè Hip-Hop Yon Ti Jan Mal Plase pou pale de Ayisyen ki pa bay sa kap fet lakay yo vale paske nou tout konnen Rap la Pa Pou nou. Bon M pap al antre nan deba sa a kounye a. Men mwen anvi di pouki pou’m oblije jwe Yon atis aysiyen ki pa gen pyès orijinalite kap imite Britney Spears, leu Briney Spears ap fe Hit Mondyal toujou? Paske Avan pou’m ta pale de pwomosyon Hip-Hop Kreyol, M ta prefere pale de Beethovas, James Germains, Belo, Eddy Francois, Boukman, Emeline, Ti Coca, Tamara Sufrin, Wooly, etc… Men jan mwen di a se yon lòt deba paske si yap pale de HAITIAN MUSIC, Fok nou aprann konn sa ki Haitian ak sa ki pa pou nou.
(ENGLISH) "In terms of radio stations in Haiti playing songs from artists/bands that are not Haitian, I THINK EUD WHO IS DOING HIP HOP IS A BIT OUT OF PLACE TO TALK ABOUT HAITIANS THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTING WHAT IS COMING FROM HOME. We know that RAP IS NOT OURS, so I will not even enter that part of the debate. Why should I support a Haitian artist imitating Britney Spears, when Britney is still around making world hits? Even before I start to talk about promoting Hip Hop Kreyol, I would rather talk about Beethova, James Germain, Belo, Eddy Francois, Boukman, Emeline, Ti Coca, Tamara Suffrin, Wooly etc...Like I said before, it's a whole other debate in itself because if we are talking about Haitian music, we must learn to understand what is ours, and what is NOT ours."
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CAREL: Kounye a kite mwen pale de Radio Ki pa jwe ase Mizik Peyi nou. Mwen Menm mwen gen yon 15h emisyon Varyete Mizik chak semaine sou Radio One. M toujou pran tan mwen pou mwen jwe au moins 50%+1 Mizik Peyi’m. Men Fok mwen di’w li difisil anpil, paske nan 51% sa a 30% landan yo se mizik ki gen plis ke 5 lane depi yo te soti.
(ENGLISH)"Now let me talk about radio stations that don't play enough of our own music. I have a 15 hours of variety music every week on Radio 1. I always make sure that I play 50% +1 of Haitian music, but I must say that it is very difficult because at least 30% of those songs from that percentage are songs that have been out for 5 years."
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CAREL: Avan nou kondane radio yo, An Nou poze pwoblem Production an. Konbyen Album HAITIAN MUSIC ki soti nan yon Ane, Konbyen Mizik Ki Valab ladan yo? Konbyen gwoup/atis Haitian ki an aktivite, sa vle ki kap fe bal, jwe konsè, fè tournee pandan yon ane? Tout tan nou pa poze pwoblem sa yo nou pap janm ka rezoud pwoblem mizik lot peyi kap anvayi nou.
(ENGLISH) "Before you condemn the radio, let's look at the PRODUCTION ISSUES of the business. How many albums are released in a year? How many from those songs that are released, are good? How many artists/groups are ACTIVE in terms of the bal scene throughout the year? Until we look at this issue here, we will never be able to resolve the problem of songs from other countries that are invading our shores."
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CAREL: Gen Anpil moun ki pale de production nationale yo konprann se nan bannann, patat ak diri li rete Selman. Alors si production muzik nou fèb, se nòmal pou lòt peyi anvayi nou. Menm jan Nou pa mete rad ke ayisyen fè, Menm Sitwon, Anana, Zonyon se kay vwazen li soti. Pwoblem nan telman Grav, M pral atire atansyon nou sou yon bagay senp. Konbyen Gwoup Mizik/Atis Ki soti nan Provinces epi ki Fè Siksè nan Kapital la? Opps!! Nou bwe Pwa! Donk Pwoblem Production nou an grav anpil.
(ENGLISH) "A lot of people are talking about national production. They think it only has to do with Rice, Bananas only. If our musical production is weak, it's only normal that other songs from other countries invade our shores. The same way that we don't like to wear clothes that are made by Haitians, even lemons, onions, and other stuff, it comes from our neighbors. The problem is so deep, I am going to bring your attention on something else. How many bands from the provinces in Haiti can we say have had success in the capital? OOPS, I guess you guys can't think of one. OK, therefore our production problem is a major issue."
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CAREL: An nou pale de yon lòt bagay. Carimi ap fete 10 lane en 2011. An nou pran Deseni sa a. Apre Carimi ak Harmonik an 10 lane ki soti kòm nouvo gwoup Konpa e ki fe suksè (Album+Bal+Fanatik), Ki Lòt gwoup ankò?. Menm la ankò gen yon pwoblem. Carimi ak Harmonik pa’t finn “Nouvo” Ke sa. Paske Piblik la te gentan konn ti mesye yo deja.
(ENGLISH) "Let's talk about something else. CARIMI will have 10 years on the market in 2011. Let's take this decade. After CARIMI and HARMONIK as new groups in the Compas genre who have had success in terms of album, bals, and fans, WHAT OTHER GROUPS THIS DECADE can we say did the same thing? There again there is a problem. Carimi and Harmonik are not that new because the public already knew of the guys in the group before."
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CAREL: Nou gen yon gwo pwoblem nan sosyete nou, ke li te sou tè dayiti ke li a letranje nan diaspora a. Bon Pou mwen menm pwoblem nan Diaspora a li pi mal. Diaspora a gen pouvoir d’achat, yo nan peyi devlope, epi moun yo pa vle soti, yo pap achte CD. Epi konbyen gwoup ki gen nan diaspora ki fè siksè? Konbyen Gwoup nan NY, Boston, Canada, Miami, (pou’m site kote ki gen plis aysiyen yo) Ki ka mete 600 deyò pou kont yo au moins chak Mois?
(ENGLISH) "We have a big problem in our society whether it's on our soil in Haiti, or in the diaspora. The problem in the diaspora is worst. They have the power to buy, they are living in a developed country, and they do NOT want to go out, they don't want to purchase cds. How many groups in the diaspora do we have that has had success? How many groups in Boston, Canada, New York, or Miami (Just naming where they have the most Haitians) can actually pull 600 people BY THEMSELVES at least every month?"
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CAREL: Eske se Piblik la? Ou byen se Production an? M plus kwe se Production an. La a anko se yon lòt gwo deba.
(ENGLISH) "Is it the public? Is it the production? I think it has to do with PRODUCTION. There again, that's for another debate."
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CAREL: Pou’m retounen sou radio yo nan peyi a, M’ap di ke se Leta ak Moun ki konsène nan pwoblem nan, Label yo ak Atis yo ki pou fè pression pou defann dwa yo. Pou fe ke Mizik yo jwe nan tout radio paske se patrimoine Peyi a ke yo ap anrichi. Epi fok yo travay plus, pou prodwi plis mizik. Epi leu sa a Radio ap jwe mizik yo.
(ENGLISH)"To return on the discussion of our radios in the country, I say it is the government, the record labels, as well as the artists that should put the pressure on to defend their rights in order to have their songs be played on all the radio stations in the country. They must also work HARDER to produce more music, and from there, radio will play the songs."
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CAREL: Nan Konferans COB a mwen te pwopoze yon 3 jounen deba ak tout moun ki enplike nan HMI la. Mwen ap travay sou sa kounye a e mwen kwe ke pwoblem sa yo dwe poze.
(ENGLISH)"At the press conference for COB, I proposed some sort of debate that would talk about the HMI in general. I am working on that right now because I think these problems need to be addressed."

CAREL PEDRE!
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[stallion25]

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[NELSON29]

Great interview!!!! The production problem is 100% on point. I DJ at both spanish and haitian parties and i see my self playing the same kompa hits every week. The quality music production is just not there in Kompa. Thats why i laugh when you have members saying bands should ride a song or an album as long as 3 years.

This only happens in the HMI. Merengue, Salsa and Bachata bands have albums coming out prety much on a yearly basis(if you're trying to stay relevant) and they do a lot of more collabarations between them. It will take an act of god before we see Djakout and T-vice work on a song for god sake it took over a year to release the earthquake tribute song This will never happen in the Latin industry. They love making hits.

Here's a perfect example of a hot collabo Shakira ft El Cata
http://youtu.be/XAhTt60W7qo

I also agree with not having new bands, new blood. Kompa needs to evolve, im personally getting tired of hearing the same bouchon rechoffe from the industry as a hole. There's hasnt been a breakthrough band since Carimi. Harmonik was all hype and marketing, nothing new regarding sound. Hopefully nobody tries to mention Disip as a new band
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NOBODY cares about threats over the internet. Don't try to act hardcore with the keyboard. FIGHTING ONLINE is like racing in the Special Olympics; even if you win, you're still retarded.

[CAP - PORT MARGOT]

Cool int. He could have answered without kraze Eud though.


Epi, didn't Disip come out AFTER Harmonik and Carimi? Is Carel dismissing Disip as yon dyaz ki fe bri?

More questions, ah

[NELSON29]

CAP - PORT MARGOT wrote:

Cool int. He could have answered without kraze Eud though. Epi, didn't Disip come out AFTER Harmonik and Carimi? Is Carel dismissing Disip as yon dyaz ki fe bri? More questions, ah

Bri yes, Hit NO!!! Stop lying to yourself, Disip is all hype, nothing new. if anything it was a continuation of Nu look
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[zipgenel]

Carel...

you make a lot of sense...

especially when refering to the level of productivity...

but there's one key factor in this thing..

And I brought that here on km before...

Some konpa band are killing konpa... which is our most popular form of music...

when you have a band that is playing a style of konpa that is 75% hip hop, soon or later this attitude that is only encourage by lazyness and lack of creativity will affect an entire industry...

it's more complicated than it seems...

Jenerasyon fotokopi!
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[CAP - PORT MARGOT]

zipgenel wrote:

Carel... you make a lot of sense... especially when refering to the level of productivity... but there's one key factor in this thing.. And I brought that here on km before... Some konpa band are killing konpa... which is our most popular form of music... when you have a band that is playing a style of konpa that is 75% hip hop, soon or later this attitude that is only encourage by lazyness and lack of creativity will affect an entire industry... it's more complicated than it seems... Jenerasyon fotokopi!

These DJ Bands (dyaz laptop with accompaniment tracks yo) T-Vice, Carimi, Harmonik, they're allowed to do what they're doing, se lot neg ki PA itilize COMPUTERIZED AID yo ki bezwen kreye pi bel mizik.

Djakout pa jwe ak laptop men REYALITE A pi bel pase 99% mizik ki soti nan dyaz DJ yo.

Si nou pa kite neg yo fe sa yo ap fe a tout dyaz yo pral sonnen menmjan. And let's NOT be in denial, if it wasn;t for them DJ Bands, the HMI scene would have been DEAD in the diaspora.

Music is art, art is subjective, mpap di neg "DJ" yo not to do their thing, but I want the PURE Konpa bands to step up their game. If you can't compete on the playing field, you better kick it into overdrive.

Rayi chen an di dan'l blan: Ti DJs yo fe PI PLUS pou HMI la in the past 4 years than the "pure" Konpa playing bands, in terms of international awareness. PA gen manti nan sa.

Nou bezwen producers to stop trying to duplicate their old success by trying to RE-create songs by using the same style, vibe, template, groove, gou whatever it's called. I had a few posts on that subject regarding Richie, last week. Why do u think we had "Ke-Benz"? Everyone has been wondering why, that's to duplicate the Reginald Frero era, but it's NOT happening. Anyway, I'm sure some people are gonna focus on that last part, so I wont add anything else before they get confused.

[paysan]

Min NI MIN VERITE A, HAITIEN PA KONN SA YO VLE... ESKE NOU TANDE SA CAREL DI A? NOU MANKE PRODUI... EPUI YO TOUJOU AP KRITIKE RICHIE, OH OUI LI PRODUI TROP ALBUM, LI PA BAY PUBLIK LA TEMP POUL DIGERE ALBUM YO... ESKE NOU TANDE MEZANMI, WE'RE LACK ON PRODUCTION, NOT ENOUGH PRODUCTION COMING FROM OUR ARTIST/BANDS... SO, MOUN KI KONN AP KRITIKE RICHIE YO, OUVE ZOREY NOU BIEN POUN TANDE, HAITIEN PA KONN SA'L VLE....SMH!

[CAP - PORT MARGOT]

paysan wrote:

Min NI MIN VERITE A, HAITIEN PA KONN SA YO VLE... ESKE NOU TANDE SA CAREL DI A? NOU MANKE PRODUI... EPUI YO TOUJOU AP KRITIKE RICHIE, OH OUI LI PRODUI TROP ALBUM, LI PA BAY PUBLIK LA TEMP POUL DIGERE ALBUM YO... ESKE NOU TANDE MEZANMI, WE'RE LACK ON PRODUCTION, NOT ENOUGH PRODUCTION COMING FROM OUR ARTIST/BANDS... SO, MOUN KI KONN AP KRITIKE RICHIE YO, OUVE ZOREY NOU BIEN POUN TANDE, HAITIEN PA KONN SA'L VLE....SMH!

Ah, bay opinyon'w sou topic la, se jis yon ekzanp.

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[philosophenoir]

I blame Haitians radio and TV for giving too much time to foreign porducts....

The rap movement raped our culture....abused it in every possible way.....and the radio hosts (les animateurs de radio) are responsible.


Mwen te pre de 14 ans pa janm al Haiti....cette annee mwen te yon kout pye...

Tout machine se yon sel bagay "Izolan Izolan Izolan"......mwen telman tande chante misyeu tet fe mal pran mwen....
Some of the lyrics are positive men gen nan yo se bagay violent net ale....

Pa gen sensure nan radio Haiti...tout pawol sorti...yo di sa yo vle....



Carel a raison quand il dit ke kalite pwodwi Ayisyen yo pa fin yes......trop vye album.....produit sans sens....


Enfin!
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