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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: ESKE ENDISTRI A CHANJE? EVOLYE OU BYEN REGRESE? GEN MILYON? Reply with quote Back to top

Si mizik nan peyi'm pa gen milyon...
se paske sikwi an genyen twòp koripsyon.."

kontwòl/zenglen...

eske'n panse gen milyon pou atis/band yo nan endistri an...?

eske'n panse ke gen atis/band k'ap fè milyon aktyèlman nan endistri an..?

sa'k fè'm mande an... se paske nan lòt post la.. km mande atis yo eske li nesesè pou'w woule yon bèl oto... Danny P reponn ke yon atis konpa pa ta dwe achte yon ti machin pou pi plis ke 20 mil goud... eske sa se derespektan, minimize enpòtans endistri an.. ou byen se reyalite an sa?

paske mwen panse gen dezoutwa grenn si yo t'ap jere biznis yo byen ki te ka woule yon bèl oto "de luxe"...

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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Nan moman sa se sel HMi kom biznis/industry aysien kap mache...only problem is sel moun kap plen vent yo se management avek band owners.

I think there are some bands that easily clear a million in revenue anually..and after expenses not many individual artist clear 6 figures...for the most part I think they do well.

the ones who are not eating well are the giggers/non-band owners they don't get a fair shake and since their are no unions or agents to represent them...they sign these contracts maybe get a lil bit upfront but when you don't own anything we not gonna get the most you can get.

Which is why we are starting to see all these newly formed bands out there.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: ESKE ENDISTRI A CHANJE? EVOLYE OU BYEN REGRESE? GEN MILY Reply with quote Back to top

zipgenel wrote:
Si mizik nan peyi'm pa gen milyon...
se paske sikwi an genyen twòp koripsyon.."

kontwòl/zenglen...

eske'n panse gen milyon pou atis/band yo nan endistri an...?

eske'n panse ke gen atis/band k'ap fè milyon aktyèlman nan endistri an..?

sa'k fè'm mande an... se paske nan lòt post la.. km mande atis yo eske li nesesè pou'w woule yon bèl oto... Danny P reponn ke yon atis konpa pa ta dwe achte yon ti machin pou pi plis ke 20 mil goud... eske sa se derespektan, minimize enpòtans endistri an.. ou byen se reyalite an sa?

paske mwen panse gen dezoutwa grenn si yo t'ap jere biznis yo byen ki te ka woule yon bèl oto "de luxe"...

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Danny P reponn ke yon atis konpa pa ta dwe achte yon ti machin pou pi plis ke 20 mil goud... eske sa se derespektan, minimize enpòtans endistri an.. ou byen se reyalite an sa?


At $150 per gig OR LESS for MOST of them, I believe Danny is RIGHT once again. Unless they want to live beyond their means.

Anpil atis ki achte gwo mak machin, end up returning them to the dealer as soon as they realize "JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN BUY IT, DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN AFFORD IT".

*And also to avoid getting repoe'd in front of the club kote ke yo ap jwe bal la.

Anpil neg ap abiye fre nan bal, epi yo PA genyen at least yon ti IRA. It's living from paycheck to paycheck. It's true. Danny is right. You don't buy more then you can chew...

3/4 nan atis yo, se FANM YO KI PRAN SWEN YO, ki PEYE BILLS YO, METE MANGER NAN FRIDGE YO, METE RAD SOU YO, it's freakin' DISGUSTING. It's not good to e a parasite.

They (the "artists") even have a name for these type of women: YON TI NURSE.

It's sad. Frankly, 99% of neg ki nan dyaz, se yon bann neg SAN DREAMS, yonbann neg ki PA ka imajine yon future. I mean $150 per week? Are you living in cardboards or under a bridge?

Neg yo kite FOLI "sipesta", ti "atansyon" yo jwenn nan mains groupies monte nan tet yo. I frankly DO NOT feel bad for them.

Anpil nan yo PA MENM gen machinn 10,000 GOURDES, se paske, yo pa vle mete ansanm pouyo travay and save up, then collectively put a band together. It's ALREADY implanted IN THEIR MINDS, that the formula is "to have a MONEYMAN"... It's pure laziness and lack of vision on tgheir part.

The most ironic thing is, they CANT get paid decent money, because of them. Se yo MENM ki "appoint" MONEY MEN yo sou tet yo. By being lazy and CANNOT collectively coem up with the required amount to start up their business.

Si ou pra'l mande banks loans, you will always be on your knees crawling into their doorsteps for handouts.

Anpil nan neg yo met al pouse yon BOURET, parents yo vini isit, travay, epi yo vini isit, se mete the CHEAPEST Versace shirts (the ones with the logos, the expensive shirts dont have LOGOS up front, they
re for PATEKRE ki vle SHOW OFF") to "SHINE" on stage... Yo gen FOLI...

Mwen jwenn nouvel la, ni dossiers yo tou.
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Si mizik lan peyi'm pa gen gen milyon se pa paske genyen twop koripsyon se plis paske neg yo euuuuu Hummmmm... Confused Confused Confused

Eske'n panse gen milyon pou atis/band yo nan endistri an...?

Euuuuu... tout depann de sa ou vle di par "endistri". Si se potoprens, ny, miami, boston, frans, martinique, gwadloup, a peine si ka gen 2 lyons. men si ou commence ap pense, mozanbik, angola, brazil, portugal kap pwodui kap exploite konpa tou (cabo zouk, kizomba, semba), mwen pa di nap rive lan mil lan non men nou ap ka fel rive yon 2san yon 3san yo

Pou astis kap fe milyon an Hummmm... Zafe ti neg se miste frem

Sa Danny di ya se pa manti non. kenbe yon gita lan endistry saaa ka bay 2 groupi selman
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

konpaconvert wrote:
Nan moman sa se sel HMi kom biznis/industry aysien kap mache...only problem is sel moun kap plen vent yo se management avek band owners.

I think there are some bands that easily clear a million in revenue anually..and after expenses not many individual artist clear 6 figures...for the most part I think they do well.

the ones who are not eating well are the giggers/non-band owners they don't get a fair shake and since their are no unions or agents to represent them...they sign these contracts maybe get a lil bit upfront but when you don't own anything we not gonna get the most you can get.

Which is why we are starting to see all these newly formed bands out there.


WHY are you defending these guys who wanna act like losers? Why don't they get in groups of 3 or 4 or 5, WORK HARD for a year and a half, place 40 grands EACH in a pot, then start a band as BAND OWNERS?

Ou pa panse sa t'ap mete yon solisyon nan zafe atis kite dyaz chak semaine lan? Paske yo t'ap BIZNIS owners.

Don't you think the balance of power would have THEN shifted towards them instead of the "money men/thugs/gwo ponyet san edikasyon" yo? Neg san formation yo?

I DO...

Fason ou pale a, talking about UNIONS and stuff, it sounds like a typical Haitian who's waiting for a "BLAN" to solve their problems. How about they get their lazy butts on the clock for a year or two? Save up while taking music and business classes?


Stop making excuses. Ou rekolte sa ou plante.
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: ESKE ENDISTRI A CHANJE? EVOLYE OU BYEN REGRESE? GEN MILY Reply with quote Back to top

Neg Pm said it ALL! at the end of the day,
siw pas owner, part owner, sometimes manager
ou chirer. i know kelke smart musicians ki gen regular
9 to 5, studios or business pas yo, other sources of revenue.
why, because yo konen yo pap ka make ends meet ak
ti sa yo jwenn nan fait music lan.

sad but its the reality of the HMI! se pousa too 3/4
fini ak 2 po dada yo. except those with a brain ki we pi
loin the the fame and the show off!

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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Neg Port Margot - Okap wrote:
konpaconvert wrote:
Nan moman sa se sel HMi kom biznis/industry aysien kap mache...only problem is sel moun kap plen vent yo se management avek band owners.

I think there are some bands that easily clear a million in revenue anually..and after expenses not many individual artist clear 6 figures...for the most part I think they do well.

the ones who are not eating well are the giggers/non-band owners they don't get a fair shake and since their are no unions or agents to represent them...they sign these contracts maybe get a lil bit upfront but when you don't own anything we not gonna get the most you can get.

Which is why we are starting to see all these newly formed bands out there.


WHY are you defending these guys who wanna act like losers? Why don't they get in groups of 3 or 4 or 5, WORK HARD for a year and a half, place 40 grands EACH in a pot, then start a band as BAND OWNERS?

Ou pa panse sa t'ap mete yon solisyon nan zafe atis kite dyaz chak semaine lan? Paske yo t'ap BIZNIS owners.

Don't you think the balance of power would have THEN shifted towards them instead of the "money men/thugs/gwo ponyet san edikasyon" yo? Neg san formation yo?

I DO...

Fason ou pale a, talking about UNIONS and stuff, it sounds like a typical Haitian who's waiting for a "BLAN" to solve their problems. How about they get their lazy butts on the clock for a year or two? Save up while taking music and business classes?


Stop making excuses. Ou rekolte sa ou plante.


Rete kiyes ki di having yon union or representation se pou Blan...no my friend this is about structure,....in every entertainment industry ki genyen million se sa'w genyen...se pa otut moun ki kapab vini yon owner...some are just simply artist who need a business/legal mind to defend their interest pou moun pa voler yo.

the whole HMI industry lacks structure...what you are proposing is about one step better than what we currently have and at the end of the day it will not be enough ...
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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At $150 per gig OR LESS for MOST of them, I believe Danny is RIGHT once again. Unless they want to live beyond their means.


You really don't think they have another job?

I mean that's why they are giggers. This should be just a side thing for them right?
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SIROMYEL wrote:
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At $150 per gig OR LESS for MOST of them, I believe Danny is RIGHT once again. Unless they want to live beyond their means.


You really don't think they have another job?

I mean that's why they are giggers. This should be just a side thing for them right?



Wrong!
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 PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HMI guen anpil problem,problem ki pi gro se zafe contra sa ,trop biznis fet nan bouche ,no real contra ,album soti ,musicien pa kon konbien ki van ,jazz joue yo pa touche ,musicien pa touche ,cependan producer ap fe kob , gin kob nan musik la, anpil lajan , mwen we kote promoteur kon ap konte $ 60,000 benefic apres yon soiree ,epi tambouriner pa min touche $100 , how do you raise a family with that ? 99 pou cent nan HMI musicien yo fel paske yo guen espwa yon demain miyor , epi paske yo rinmin mizik ,en realite si ou we yo guin yon bel oto , kwe mwen se pa mizik ki balil .
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