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RICHARD URBAIN "I am against it because when numbers like that are released, people will get the impression that certain bands "PAP MINNIN"; and even though sometimes the numbers might be the right assumption; it is not always the case. There are other factors that make or break a party in terms of bal attendance. A lot of times when bal numbers are good, people think it's because the band is hot or popular, whereas a party could be great in terms of numbers due to advertising."

RICHARD continues "Take the TVICE/HARMONIK party from the other day in New York; the numbers being so good had more to do with the promoters rather than the bands. The promoters of that party had a massive advertising campaign for that event and they connected with the public. They connected with the crowd and market in terms of those bands. My reasons for NOT wanting bal numbers to be made public are more complex."

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[Melfanatik]

I’m not really understanding why all of a sudden almost everyone seems to have a problem with bal numbers being made public; the a number of of the reasons given for this stance by some bother me a bit.

From the way I see it, advertising only works as long as your product is good; if you are promoting a second-rate material, you can spend tens of thousands of dollars in advertising and it does nothing for you. The formula is great product + good advertising; they have to be on the same wavelength.

I don’t see public bal numbers as such a big issue anyway unless it can be proven that disclosing them has ominously hurt a particular band in the past.

[neg_montreal]

Melfanatik wrote:

I’m not really understanding why all of a sudden almost everyone seems to have a problem with bal numbers being made public; the a number of of the reasons given for this stance by some bother me a bit. From the way I see it, advertising only works as long as your product is good; if you are promoting a second-rate material, you can spend tens of thousands of dollars in advertising and it does nothing for you. The formula is great product + good advertising; they have to be on the same wavelength. I don’t see public bal numbers as such a big issue anyway unless it can be proven that disclosing them has ominously hurt a particular band in the past.

Se yon bagay très simple wi. La question n'avait jamais été poser... Ou pa wè ke se yon seri de promoters KM relé pou li pozé kestyon an... Se yo menm ki relé pou di sa non

Understand now!
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m daccord ave'k Richard oui...

Bal sa te genyin mou tout kote kap voye'l monte....

I would also say lots of people expecting to hear tvice new album live..
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[Melfanatik]

neg_montreal wrote:

Melfanatik wrote: I’m not really understanding why all of a sudden almost everyone seems to have a problem with bal numbers being made public; the a number of of the reasons given for this stance by some bother me a bit. From the way I see it, advertising only works as long as your product is good; if you are promoting a second-rate material, you can spend tens of thousands of dollars in advertising and it does nothing for you. The formula is great product + good advertising; they have to be on the same wavelength. I don’t see public bal numbers as such a big issue anyway unless it can be proven that disclosing them has ominously hurt a particular band in the past. Se yon bagay très simple wi. La question n'avait jamais été poser... Ou pa wè ke se yon seri de promoters KM relé pou li pozé kestyon an... Se yo menm ki relé pou di sa non Understand now!

Well, I don't understand how they didn't bring it up before. After all, there isn't a law that says a promoter must release bal numbers....

[Haitianone]

That is crap, first of all it is matter of documentation which I notice in the Haitian world they don't like at all. So in all essence, if the numbers known then maybe the tax man can know. BTW, most clubs play the same game as well so they cut their tax payments to show less profits. Why does it matter if a band does well one night and does badly another. If a band does badly every night then you know for sure this band is going down. In many cases, people can see for themselves and make that determination. The fact these promotors are claiming they protecting bands reputation is total nonsense. Why does it matter to them? People lie numbers don't.
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[TOTOVICE]

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Take the TVICE/HARMONIK party from the other day in New York; the numbers being so good had more to do with the promoters rather than the bands. The promoters of that party had a massive advertising campaign for that event and they connected with the public. They connected with the crowd and market in terms of those bands. My reasons for NOT wanting bal numbers to be made public are more complex."

I disagree with that statement. Advertising did it's part , but there are a couple of Match ups outhere right now that guarantee a great turnout epi mwen signe deye'l. Nan moman You match up any band with T-VICE ou nan bisnis simple as that.

Bon ,

The bal number thing to me is kind of ridiculous,

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Haitianone wrote:

That is crap, first of all it is matter of documentation which I notice in the Haitian world they don't like at all. So in all essence, if the numbers known then maybe the tax man can know. BTW, most clubs play the same game as well so they cut their tax payments to show less profits. Why does it matter if a band does well one night and does badly another. If a band does badly every night then you know for sure this band is going down. In many cases, people can see for themselves and make that determination. The fact these promotors are claiming they protecting bands reputation is total nonsense. Why does it matter to them? People lie numbers don't.

H1, you always find a way of Probing into my Brain and bring out my Thoughts on NONSENSICAL comments made by a Well Known Promoter like Richard Urbain ( a man that came from a being a Simple NYC School Teacher to a Successful Businessman, and who should know BETTER). I don't agree at all with his comments, and also Discrediting the Bands for the Outcome is a LOW-BLOW in my Opinion.
Professeur Urbain, ou fe'm Desu....
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