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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: TOUT MOUN VLE FE KANAVAL....A QUOI BON... Reply with quote Back to top

I would like to start by saying that yours truly as well was hit by the same bug for the past two years as you can recall that I put out carnival song in 2007 and 2008...but the question I ask myself as a business person is A QUOI BON....
It's important for bands that are scheduled to be part of the parade and that know that they will have the sponsors to back up their expenses to come out with a carnival song and a good video. However many are just getting into something for the fun of it or with some other motives....but nevertheless an expensive venture with nothing in return for most.
Back in the days there were few bands and meringue competition was very interesting...today Caraibes FM already have more than 200 meringues and counting...the government put in place a radio station just for the carnival period and we know that carnival are on the net as well....In the middle of all this, the chance of being heard is close to nothing unless you are one of the big dogs.
So many bands put out a carnival song but that didn't move their business one notch for the rest of the year...
Another trend that we find in the recent years are the comedians...Jessifra-Tonton Dezirab-Pastè Blaze-Piti Caraibes- and many others...now the radio announcer and sportscaster Harold Domond also have his carnival this year...but at least he will come out in the Carrefour carnival....
Now I can understand why some bands don't even bother to have a yearly carnival song....A QUOI BON....because even without a carnival song they were and some still remain some of the most successful bands in the business....and we can name System Band-Tabou Combo-Zenglen -Frère Déjean -Accolade -Volo Volo K-Dans-Skah Shah -Zèklè-Caribbean Sextet to name a few...and let's not forget that some bands have very successful carnival songs year after year like Vwadezil-Demele-Tokay-Koudjay-Boukman-Rev-King Posse -Show Off and most of all Legend...that still didn't take them to the top of the HMI ladder....So having a carnival song is not a guarantee that it will move up a band....but it could be spending some money over nothing....and that is even when your carnival came as the best like in the case of KRIZ with the 2003 carnival....
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Staff Poze,

It has been like that for many years.

Every year, there are about 200 and plus carnival songs that are released. And most of them come from bands you have never heard about and probably never will again.

Some people even create bands just for the sake of carnival and then afterwards, nada. If the carnival song is a hit, then they will probably try to keep going, but most of the times it doesn't work for them.

There is a very simple reason for that. It's CARNIVAL. Carnival is a national holiday, the most popular musical celebration in the year. They only have 3 days to have as much fun as they can. So they are all having fun.

You don't have to take them seriously. Just enjoy them for the moment!

Bon se leu kanaval, pou w'wè jan gen djaz kap fè makak! It's always hilarious, especially the videos.

Se kanaval!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

AMEN. You are 150% right.
But the bands rfuse to see it that way.
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Non mon cher, mwen konnen ke knaval ou fet deja...
Just lague'l pou nou..mLaughing Laughing

Staff la, mwen songe leu'm te tomoun se jazz ki ta pral lan parad ki te fe knava.
Koulieya tan an change, se preske tout jazz ki beswen fe...
Pou mwen se yon perte de tan, unless ke band sa'a gen intansyon pou'l patisipe lan parad la in the near future.
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

STAFF,K-dans did have a Kanaval song,i believe 1992 or 93.
I think the name of it was bicyclette
 
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MOURASSA wrote:
STAFF,K-dans did have a Kanaval song,i believe 1992 or 93.
I think the name of it was bicyclette

Yes I said Yearly...K-Dans lived a long time after that but they didn't see the need for it....
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

JCV Productions,
this question is a year late. Very Happy

fenomèn sa gen similarite ak fenomèn "mixed tape" ki gen nan Hip Hop
Se yon lwazi kap chache sous oportinite
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 PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Staff, eske ou su ke Skah-Shah pa janm fe meringue knaval?
I know that they had a song about knaval but not sure if it was a knaval song..
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 PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: TOUT MOUN VLE FE KANAVAL....A QUOI BON... Reply with quote Back to top

STaFF PoZé wrote:
I would like to start by saying that yours truly as well was hit by the same bug for the past two years as you can recall that I put out carnival song in 2007 and 2008...but the question I ask myself as a business person is A QUOI BON....
It's important for bands that are scheduled to be part of the parade and that know that they will have the sponsors to back up their expenses to come out with a carnival song and a good video. However many are just getting into something for the fun of it or with some other motives....but nevertheless an expensive venture with nothing in return for most.
Back in the days there were few bands and meringue competition was very interesting...today Caraibes FM already have more than 200 meringues and counting...the government put in place a radio station just for the carnival period and we know that carnival are on the net as well....In the middle of all this, the chance of being heard is close to nothing unless you are one of the big dogs.
So many bands put out a carnival song but that didn't move their business one notch for the rest of the year...
Another trend that we find in the recent years are the comedians...Jessifra-Tonton Dezirab-Pastè Blaze-Piti Caraibes- and many others...now the radio announcer and sportscaster Harold Domond also have his carnival this year...but at least he will come out in the Carrefour carnival....
Now I can understand why some bands don't even bother to have a yearly carnival song....A QUOI BON....because even without a carnival song they were and some still remain some of the most successful bands in the business....and we can name System Band-Tabou Combo-Zenglen -Frère Déjean -Accolade -Volo Volo K-Dans-Skah Shah -Zèklè-Caribbean Sextet to name a few...and let's not forget that some bands have very successful carnival songs year after year like Vwadezil-Demele-Tokay-Koudjay-Boukman-Rev-King Posse -Show Off and most of all Legend...that still didn't take them to the top of the HMI ladder....So having a carnival song is not a guarantee that it will move up a band....but it could be spending some money over nothing....and that is even when your carnival came as the best like in the case of KRIZ with the 2003 carnival....


Staff, very good analysis. For most bands, the return on investment is negative.

but for the fans, it's great! The abundance of carnival songs out there makes Carnival what it really is. It puts us in a festive mood.

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 PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jay Brooklyn wrote:
Staff, eske ou su ke Skah-Shah pa janm fe meringue knaval?
I know that they had a song about knaval but not sure if it was a knaval song..

Jay,
The song you are referring to is called LA VIE A BELLE...it was released in 1980 under the label Mini Records. That's the album that has the songs Macho Man and Sentiment in the best days of Skah Shah....It was a song about Carnival...but not a meringue carnavalesque. That song is (almost 30 later) years the theme song of the 2009 carnival, and is being played once again on the air in Haiti.
In 1972 Shleu Shleu (the Shleu Shleu that will become Skah Shah) came out with the song Aie Tiou Aie (not a carnival song neither)...I remember that like today because as an adolescent I fell on a hole (nan Rue Desroux) while I was dancing in the band....Thank God I didn't brake any of my bones because I fell on other people who were already in the hole...however I have scars on my left legs form that accident.
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