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kompared



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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jay, djazz yo se entite ki fe plis kob nan HMI la. Si yo pa vle admet gin problem, se pa mwen ki pou di gin problem. Mwen paka rinmin biznis neg yo plis pase yo.

Djazz yo di yo ok, pa gin problem...so n'ap kite'l mache. Le yo santi gin problem yap chache solution an pou kont yo.

YA DEGAJE YO... Very Happy Very Happy Wink
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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: LET'S IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS OF THE HMI AND SUGGEST SOLUT Reply with quote Back to top

Jay Brooklyn wrote:
li tres clair ke HMI la chaje ak problem...
nou toujou ap pleyen men se rare nou bay suggestions.
mwen ouvri post sa'a pou tout moun vinn pale...
an nou mete emotion ak fanatism de cote pou nou ka jere problem HMI paske a mon avis, si bagay yo kontinue facon yo ye kounyeya, biznis la pap dure pou trop longtemps...

please, se pa vinn bay pleyen selman non, sa ki pi important se propoze suggestions...
Thank you...


Jay, si Pat gen post mwen yo, wap we vale Suggestion kem bay deja pou restructurer HMI lan. En fait, se menm bagay yo map redi, donk li ap pi fasil pou mwen sim ta repran yon post kem te fe recemment
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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kompared wrote:
Jay, djazz yo se entite ki fe plis kob nan HMI la. Si yo pa vle admet gin problem, se pa mwen ki pou di gin problem. Mwen paka rinmin biznis neg yo plis pase yo.

Djazz yo di yo ok, pa gin problem...so n'ap kite'l mache. Le yo santi gin problem yap chache solution an pou kont yo.

YA DEGAJE YO... Very Happy Very Happy Wink



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RoiHenri



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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Lap tre difisil pou on moun takle problem HMI sa...
From consumers
Promoters
Producers
Record store owners
And mainly the bands

Trop bagay patizan, mete sou li m pa on expert nan koze hmi sa yo, paske pi fo bagay tete en bas devan deye
 
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Haitian Diva



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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jay B, your right, the HMI is filled with problems..

I understand we are far from the mainstream but that's because the HMI is SOOOOO disorganized and its sad! We need to have an actual label for Haitians as someone stated earlier.

The Musicians need to copyright their music so other genres and other musicians do not steal their music.

Band Owner- Some,not all, are MONEY hungry...think of your consumers!
Provide a party of substance. BE fair in how you pay your band members and/or giggers...Be professional! Have contracts that stipulates the terms of the agreement...Have a plan/calendar and a budget for your group!

Band managers- Be professional. Have Codes of Coducts typed up. Have penalties for misbehavior. Make sure the band members ALL have a written contract. Stop having the mentality of thinking, he will remember the conversation. Open your minds up to being diverse. This is 2012! Music and its audience is changing. Stop treating the musicians as if they are God's gift to Earth, some of these musicians expect TOP notch status and it makes no sense. I consider we are still in a recession, stop charging these outrageous prices for your bands, especially when they come late!! Then in turn, the promoters wouldn't charge so much for their party to make a profit. Learn to split, the money in a better way. Your band members/giggers get only like $150-$200, while you charge a promoter $8,000 for one night. Where the HELL is the rest of the money going? Stop cheating your people from their deserved money.

Musicians- YOU are where you are because of your fans...Remember where you come from..Some of your EGOS are a major turn off. Remember, you can always be replaced, removed or no longer the hottest group..Learn to humble yourselves. Some of you come so late to your OWN parties, WHO do you think you are? i find that to be soo disrespectful. You pa Bon Dieu, get it together and be on time. No need for the grand entrance. Some of you refuse to play at 10pm because there is no big crowd, the consumer doesn't come early anymore because the MUSICIANS ARE NOT EVEN THERE ON TIME!!! I understand, you provide shows on holidays, and you don't see your family as much as you would want to, but remember, YOU chose this career, you CHOSE this life! Budget accordingly for a rainy day...

Promoters- If you are DUMB enough to give into these bands demands of their fees, then don't cry later about not turning a profit. No one wants to pay over $30 for a party...Think of the whole process. We have to get an outfit, get hair done, have transportation and toll money depending on where they are coming from. Be smart... Go with the cheaper bands. These big bands need to be taught a lesson. Stop trying to compete with other promoters, try to learn to collaborate and throw a successful party. You all WASTE so much money on promotion to out-due the next promoter and its a shame. You are only hurting your own parties. Stop sabotaging another promoter's party! I've heard of promoters removing others posters, stop being so immature! Grow up and plan accordingly. STOP falsely advertising parties without written confirmation from these bands. Thats why the consumers do not BUY tickets early anymore, in fear of the party being canceled or one of the bands not coming to perform at the last minute.

Consumers- Stop FIGHTING at these parties, you are the reason the promoters are losing locations to host parties. If you cannot hold your liquor, don't drink. If you don't trust your girl/guy, don't bring them out. If you have problems with someone who you KNOW will be at the party, then YOU shouldn't go. Stop trying to MAKE fake tickets, its not fair to the promoters or the bands.. Thats why promoters can't sell their tickets too far in advance in fear of ppl trying to make their own FAKE tickets. This is a vicious cycle and everyone needs to take accountability for their part in the downfall of the HMI.

Owners/Managers of Locations- Be fair and give EACH Band a chance to perform. Have a generic set of standards for every group... All these bands always complain, no one is giving them a chance... Some may stink but others are really good and lack good representation.

Upcoming Bands- NO one is going to give you a handout. You must crawl before you can walk...learn to put in the time, sweat and dedication to make it work...Work with like-minded ppl. If you have other intentions, then leave the group without any bad blood. Also, STOP bad-mouthing your group, manager or owner when things go sour for you.

Big Bands---You all started somewhere...Give the upcoming bands a chance. Stop putting up roadblocks for them to succeed. When you all retire, there needs to be someone to follow in your footsteps...Learn to groom the upcoming bands, you guys made your fame, now learn to share in the spotlight...

Those are MY suggestions, i have PLENTY more to say but thats it for now.[/b]
 
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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kompared wrote:
Jay, djazz yo se entite ki fe plis kob nan HMI la. Si yo pa vle admet gin problem, se pa mwen ki pou di gin problem. Mwen paka rinmin biznis neg yo plis pase yo.

Djazz yo di yo ok, pa gin problem...so n'ap kite'l mache. Le yo santi gin problem yap chache solution an pou kont yo.

YA DEGAJE YO... Very Happy Very Happy Wink


Jay,

Mwen pa kon si mwen ka ajoute plis ke sa.

The band owners are responsible for everything.

1. Band owners are creating SUB-STANDARD MUSIC. Pa gin hit deyo an, se met djazz yo ki akoz.

2. Prix bal yo bal pa desan. Se met djazz yo ki deside yon prix, as if we are living in 2000. Pa gin kob deyo an. All these bands should DROP their prices to the promoters.

3. Band owners don't pay enough and then force these giggers to quit. Which then creates instablity.

Trop musicien ap kite, epi TROP djazz ap fet.

But like Red La said, met djazz yo pa we bagay comme pwoblem. Yo mechan.

Epi leur biznis chavire nan main, ya kriye apres......
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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

DJ Kreyol wrote:
kompared wrote:
Jay, djazz yo se entite ki fe plis kob nan HMI la. Si yo pa vle admet gin problem, se pa mwen ki pou di gin problem. Mwen paka rinmin biznis neg yo plis pase yo.

Djazz yo di yo ok, pa gin problem...so n'ap kite'l mache. Le yo santi gin problem yap chache solution an pou kont yo.

YA DEGAJE YO... Very Happy Very Happy Wink


Jay,

Mwen pa kon si mwen ka ajoute plis ke sa.

The band owners are responsible for everything.

1. Band owners are creating SUB-STANDARD MUSIC. Pa gin hit deyo an, se met djazz yo ki akoz.

2. Prix bal yo bal pa desan. Se met djazz yo ki deside yon prix, as if we are living in 2000. Pa gin kob deyo an. All these bands should DROP their prices to the promoters.

3. Band owners don't pay enough and then force these giggers to quit. Which then creates instablity.

Trop musicien ap kite, epi TROP djazz ap fet.

But like Red La said, met djazz yo pa we bagay comme pwoblem. Yo mechan.

Epi leur biznis chavire nan main, ya kriye apres......


yes, being a gigger in the HMI is no joke...
mwen pa konn koman neg sa yo survive ak ti change yap fe ya....
and most of them refuse to do a 9 to 5...
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MWEN KON NIN TOUT BOARD LA PRAL KOURI DEYE'M...POU SA'M PRAL LAGE A LA..


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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top




Pi gwo pwoblem Haitian artist yo =>


1- Yo pa fe muzik avek passion anko + yo pa respekte fans yo
2- Haitian muzik =>> sa'a tounen an business (swa moun yo fe $$$ ou swa se pou popularity). Bref artist yo pou most of them ... plus ap travay pou avantaj yo. Yo pa travay anko pou remet marchandiz (= music, product ki soti nan tripe yo)


Solution =>> Fo'k yo remet tete yo an kestyon epi ... reflechi kisa YO ap pote nan MUSIC INDUSTRY AN
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top



Back then ... (less than 5 years old)


Artist yo te plus mobilize nan kisa yo ap pote..
Li te an pleizi pou pare ale nan bals, events LIVE yo =>>> NOT NOW anymore ... paske se bouiyon san viand ke yo ap depoze pou moun.


DJ, others artist yo fe plus effort pou depoze bon products pou moun yo... epi se la ke genyen differens lan.

M'pa konen si se top djazz yo ki komanse bouke ... OU byen yo pa kapab suiv avek NEW generasyon public lan (hmmm probably)... men yo pa remet anyen anko ... epi HMI an DOWNGRADE nan espace 5 ans sa'a yo
 
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