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[kompamagazine]

CAPTAIN SAM who is a well respected and known figure in the Paris market broke it down to us like this...and some might be surprised with a couple of the comments here.

Read below what he told us.

*CAPTAIN SAM: "Hi Pat,

kompa en France lan plis nan avantaj jazz ki sot a letranje men li pa vrèman pwofitab pou groupe lokal yo. Lè yon band sot USA et Haiti lè yo vi'n en france minimum moun pou l fè se 1000 si yo fè mwens se yon echèk li ye pou yo. Men jazz lokal yo pako jan'm jwenn formule pou fè mass moun yo, depalse lè yap jwe .

Sèlman original H lè lap jwe nan yon sal ki ka mennen yon bon 300 moun dèyè l, men lè yap jwe nan discothèque ou ka jwenn anpil moun men se yo ki menen ki fè moun sa yo deplase, se klian ki abitiye vi'n nan discothèque la, ki vini e ki tou gonfle kantite piblik la. Si'n pran yon atis tankou Daan Junior ou mete'l nan yon salle pou kont li ak tout D'5 li pap ka rasanble 200 moun.

Jazz Paris yo gen nivo pou kanpe devan nenpot jazz ki sot USA ou Haiti men pwoblèm ki genyen se bon jan manager ki manke, nan moman nou gen "Influence, Steel Groove" kap vini en force men sa ap pran yo yon ti tan anko avan yo enstale yo bien sou mache Parisien an

Original H jwe menm jou ak T-Kabzy Marseille, yo fè' 600 moun et Ti Kabzy fè 50 sa montre nou, ke si gen bon jan kominikasiyon ki fèt kompa made in Paris a ap gen plas li nan HMI la.



Map ba'w yon ti top 5 de groupe ki ka mennen plis moun dèyè yo en France

1- Original H

2- Steel Groove (Djumay ex back up)

3- Influence

4- D'5 ( Daan Junior)

5- Deblozay
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[Haitianone]

I agree Original H got a nice album out there but no support I notice in Paris
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Statehood or Bust

[Jay Brooklyn]

Mesi pou news yo, Captain Sam...
Nou apresye travay ke wap fe ya, opinyon'w e tout nouvel ke'w toujou ap pote pou nou.
Monche, mwen gen lontan map tande mizik e gade video clip Original H.
Jazz la toujou inpresyone'm. Mwen panse ke si yo te lan market US la, jazz sa'a tap fe anpil bwi.
Mwen byen kontan ke yo pral patisite lan CompasFest ane sa'a...
Map resi we kote yap performe LIVE...
Epi di neg yo pou fe anpil repetition pou yo bay yon bel performans...
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BAT CHIEN AN, TANN MET LI!

[kompared]

Haitiano wrote:

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I agree Original H got a nice album out there but no support I notice in Paris

Original H album is indeed an awesome one, but I would rather blame whoever is reponsible to market the album in the US or the producer. The marketing for the group/album in the US is INEXISTANT to say the least.(job la pa fet minm). Paris fans have given the group as much support as they can. ORIGINAL H needs to get out of Paris to conquer other markets because THEY ARE FREAKING GOOD live. They have a place in the mainsteam HMI market.

They need to work on the group marketing. That is it..!!!

As far as the other groups, I do not know if they are there yet.
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[kompamagazine]

I WAS SHOCKED by what CAPTAIN SAM told us about DANN JUNIOR in Paris when he said that they can't bring 200 people at an event there by themselves.

KM!
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[Jay Brooklyn]

kompamagazine wrote:

I WAS SHOCKED by what CAPTAIN SAM told us about DANN JUNIOR in Paris when he said that they can't bring 200 people at an event there by themselves. KM!

Maybe folks are tired of these old songs..
Maybe si Daan Junior lage yon hit lan lari ya, moun Paris a rekomanse mashe deye'l...
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BAT CHIEN AN, TANN MET LI!

[CAP - PORT MARGOT]

Original la anfom vre.

Last edited by CAP - PORT MARGOT on Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:28 pm; edited 1 time in total

[Fabrice Fombrun]

Hello guys,

Leu'm vinn li topic saa, m'santi'm concerné nan 2 pozisyon.

Firstly, i used to be part of D'5 (Daan Junior's band) for this 3 last years. I'm still working with the guys, for future projects.
Secondly, i have a solo album project one the road, and i'm living in Paris. So this subject/market concern me directly...

Gen yon réalité: an 3 zan, nou fè 4 bals in Paris (with Daan). Nou fè lot bal an provins (France & Europe too...), but sa sé pa haitian market li té yé anko. So far, Daan is one of the most popular Haitian artist in Europe, also with Beethova Oba and Belo. Min 3 atist sa yo pa jwé regulièman pou Ayisyen. Yo touché lot markèt, lot nation (Européen, Africain, Antillais spesyalman).

On lot bagay, se ke Top 5 Captain Sam bay nan (minm si mwen minm, sé pa nan lòd sa mwen tap mété'l ), s'on bèl Top 5 li yé. Chak djaz sa yo gen potensyèl yo. Daan Junior gen chans li minm ke li gen Hit ki fèt (Avè'w, j'ai soif de toi, mete'm alez, sou do, mwen santi'm beni, etc...), et m'ka di Daan Junior & D'5 rasamblé + ke 200 moun...

So sé pa on pwoblem djaz ki genyen, as Captain Sam said, djaz Paris yo gen nivo pou kanpe devan popular djaz HMI nan.
Sé pa on pwoblem talan (kiyes jodi'a ki ka contesté talan Beethova ak Belo for example).
Et sé pa on pwoblem publik ki genyen, gen on bel communauté ayisyenne nan zonn nan (gade kombyen moun T-Vice, Carimi, etc yo konn fè).

So what's the problem: gen yon LINK ki pou fèt BETWEEN the artist/band and the people/public. Sé la ròl PROMOTEU/ORGANIZATEU vinn impòtan.
Sé pa on judgement map fè non. Map "constaté" ke travay LINK saa pa fèt. Mwen poko wè ki promoteu/organizateu ki gen asé kompétans nan zonn Paris a, pou'l ka take care on djaz, pou'l voyé djaz sa monté.

Et sé pa dé kob "businessman" sa yo té ka fè na makèt la non.
Bon, m'pa di ke sé sèl problèm ki existé (ou ka gen djaz ki gen problem management, problem musical, problem kob...whatever...but sé pa TOUT djaz Paris yo ki gen problem mézanmi lol ).

Donc gen 3 explikasyon posib pou zafè promoting in Paris:
-swa yo INKOMPETAN nan domaine produi on djaz

-swa yo OPORTUNISTE, épi yap pwofité de tout travay lot promoteu USA/Canada/Haiti/etc yo fè ak popular band yo, épi yo just fè popular band sa antré Paris, epi kob la fèt. But sa s'on "subcontract" li yé, s'on roulib yap pran...

-swa PA GEN moun ki vlé fè business saa (min laa, fònn explike'm poukisa...avek tout potensyèl ki genyen an?).

Well, anyways, I might be wrong...
Min m'espere pa gen moun kap pran'l pèsonèl . Antouka mesaj mwen klè, kestyon mwen pozé an klè. Mwen kwè s'on okazyon pou akteu impòtan sa yo vinn expliké poukisa bagay yo pa fèt in the "City of the Light", right?

[CAP - PORT MARGOT]

Fabrice Fombrun wrote:

Hello guys, Leu'm vinn li topic saa, m'santi'm concerné nan 2 pozisyon. Firstly, i used to be part of D'5 (Daan Junior's band) for this 3 last years. I'm still working with the guys, for future projects. Secondly, i have a solo album project one the road, and i'm living in Paris. So this subject/market concern me directly... Gen yon réalité: an 3 zan, nou fè 4 bals in Paris (with Daan). Nou fè lot bal an provins (France & Europe too...), but sa sé pa haitian market li té yé anko. So far, Daan is one of the most popular Haitian artist in Europe, also with Beethova Oba and Belo. Min 3 atist sa yo pa jwé regulièman pou Ayisyen. Yo touché lot markèt, lot nation (Européen, Africain, Antillais spesyalman). On lot bagay, se ke Top 5 Captain Sam bay nan (minm si mwen minm, sé pa nan lòd sa mwen tap mété'l ), s'on bèl Top 5 li yé. Chak djaz sa yo gen potensyèl yo. Daan Junior gen chans li minm ke li gen Hit ki fèt (Avè'w, j'ai soif de toi, mete'm alez, sou do, mwen santi'm beni, etc...), et m'ka di Daan Junior & D'5 rasamblé + ke 200 moun... So sé pa on pwoblem djaz ki genyen, as Captain Sam said, djaz Paris yo gen nivo pou kanpe devan popular djaz HMI nan. Sé pa on pwoblem talan (kiyes jodi'a ki ka contesté talan Beethova ak Belo for example). Et sé pa on pwoblem publik ki genyen, gen on bel communauté ayisyenne nan zonn nan (gade kombyen moun T-Vice, Carimi, etc yo konn fè). So what's the problem: gen yon LINK ki pou fèt BETWEEN the artist/band and the people/public. Sé la ròl PROMOTEU/ORGANIZATEU vinn impòtan. Sé pa on judgement map fè non. Map "constaté" ke travay LINK saa pa fèt. Mwen poko wè ki promoteu/organizateu ki gen asé kompétans nan zonn Paris a, pou'l ka take care on djaz, pou'l voyé djaz sa monté. Et sé pa dé kob "businessman" sa yo té ka fè na makèt la non. Bon, m'pa di ke sé sèl problèm ki existé (ou ka gen djaz ki gen problem management, problem musical, problem kob...whatever...but sé pa TOUT djaz Paris yo ki gen problem mézanmi lol ). Donc gen 3 explikasyon posib pou zafè promoting in Paris: -swa yo INKOMPETAN nan domaine produi on djaz -swa yo OPORTUNISTE, épi yap pwofité de tout travay lot promoteu USA/Canada/Haiti/etc yo fè ak popular band yo, épi yo just fè popular band sa antré Paris, epi kob la fèt. But sa s'on "subcontract" li yé, s'on roulib yap pran... -swa PA GEN moun ki vlé fè business saa (min laa, fònn explike'm poukisa...avek tout potensyèl ki genyen an?). Well, anyways, I might be wrong... Min m'espere pa gen moun kap pran'l pèsonèl . Antouka mesaj mwen klè, kestyon mwen pozé an klè. Mwen kwè s'on okazyon pou akteu impòtan sa yo vinn expliké poukisa bagay yo pa fèt in the "City of the Light", right?

That totally makes sense. But, si lot dyaz yo we se konsa bagay yo ye, m'panse ke yo ka al vann tet yo bay piblik la, pase a kote promoter yo, chanje format biznis la, take out the middle man, throw your own parties, sa vle di tou, fok dyaz yo ta mete tet ansanm pou yo ka jwe ak lot tre souvan, pandan ke yo mete yon ti lajan akote, e dako pou yo TOUT peye websites, local radio stations pou fe reklam pou yo nan zone kote ke yo ye a ak lot kote anko, drop a telephone number or two.

Mwen pa menm kwe promoters fe sa pou dyaz, se selman moun ki ap jere dyaz spesifik tankou Richard Urbain ap jere Disip, Kreyol La by wrapping vans for them etc... Men, sa se yon lot bagay, e pa genyen ki mal avek sa, li reprezante yo.

Market la vyej mesye, se depi lontan mizisyen ap di pwomote ap eksplwate yo, me chans nou pou nou bati yon maket depi nan fondasyon li ak bon prinsip. (Market la etabli wi, but li POKO finn gate tankou U.S ak Ayiti, direksyon li ka chanje toujou)...

Last bur not least, dyaz yo dwe investi pwop lajan pa yo pou promote tet yo Ayiti. Nou bezwen fe bri la.

Komanse panse ale indepandan, si nou kapab oganize yon bal pou kont nou nan market la (acquire the venue, nou pap bezwen equipments, peye radio/tele/websites pou promosyon, Facebook etc), nou kapab oganize 3, epi rele manager yon dyaz nan US la, fe yo rantre jwe avek nou for a full weekend and split the profit. It sounds so easy.

Reyelman nan HMI la, 99% of the "promoters" and managers too, PAP regle anyen ke anpil mizisyen pou KONPA/DYAZ YO, ke yo pa't ka fe pou tet yo SI yo te gen volonte.
Yo pa genyen media ki ap kouri deye yo tout lajounin, yo pa gen photo shoot, interviews a dwat a goch, yo pa ap vwayaje au japon etc. Se selman yon laptop ak yon cell phone ou bezwen pou ou elimine job sa yo nan ANPIL dyaz (managers) ak nan anpil kominote (promoters).

I say pou 2011 la, MIZISYEN, LEVE KANPE

[FEELING]

il y a d'autres exemples, je me souviens que lors du dernier passage de Bel Djazz à paris, il y avait 200 personnes à nanterre alor qu'original H pmus de 800 personnes à la salle fado !!!