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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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kompamagazine Site Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 43367 Location: HMI World  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: VOCALIST VS SINGER..MUSICIAN VS INSTRUMENTALIST! |
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TEMPO artist/producer/guitarist TI WILL breaks down the difference between a VOCALIST and SINGER, as well as the difference between a MUSICIAN and INSTRUMENTALIST. For those of you who might not know the difference, it is a good read.
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TI WILL: "I was elaborating on a couple of points with a friend of mine which I feel necessary to share with my KM family! Most people dont really pay attention between certain terms that are very much different. Here are a couple of them!
SINGER/VOCALIST, INSTRUMENTALIST/MUSICIAN. I pinpoint some key differences between being a singer and a vocalist; musicians and instrumentalist.... And they go as follow:
Singer: Being a singer allows one to produce musical sounds with the voice, and augments regular speech by the use of both tonality and rhythm. Every singer has their own style, sound and tone. A coach/vocalist may help a singer in becoming a better singer or even a great singer/vocalist! but NOT the other way around.
Vocalist is a vocal musician. He or she has a variety of techniques/principles that a regular singer doesnt have. For example, a good vocalist knows when and how to use what we call "voix de tete"; crescendo, decrescendo etc... Perfect example I can use here is Mr Louis Armstrong!!! Great vocalist, but NOT a great singer in my opinion. A great vocalist is like a coach ! Knows all the rules and regulations of the game, but NOT necessarily good in the actual field. In other words school can produce/create a vocalist but never a singer.
Instrumentalist is a player on a musical instrument or an exponent of instrumentalism. For example John may be great at playing the guitar, piano, sax, bass etc... and doesnt know the fundamentals of the instrument or of what he is executing. Playing by ear does not make one a musician. It's just executing what's been memorised as opposed to reading a musical piece.
Musician: A musician is a person who performs, writes, and read music. In the real world where MUSICIANS operate, writing and reading music is a MUST. One may be a musician and not an intrumentalist and vice versa or can be both at the same time.
I wish every one a happy new year 2011. May God bless you all and your family... prosperite, longevite, sante, and MONEY
TI WILL! _________________ phpbb:echo dicks; |
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PhizUniq
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: HAITI  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting!
But it would be better and easier to understand if Ti Will gave examples of the current artists.
Epi tou, Ti Will, ou byen komanse ane 2011 sou board la. Se pa news voye monte album solo ki pa janm soti wap vin bay la...  _________________ Yo di djaz sa frekan... Se pa fòt nou. Nou just RESAN! |
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Haitianone

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 16180 Location: BOSTON,MA  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Very interesting stuff
Maybe Ti Will is right but to me it is parsing of words and the real differences maybe slight if not non-existent. _________________ Statehood or Bust |
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jeancelestin
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 12591 Location: BOSTON - EN LAS TODAS PARTES  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ti will, bon bagay
mot instrumentiste sa, gen ou le maestro lariviere tap pale de ou mizicien li te di neg la se ou bon instrumentiste, voila
good stuff, ti will _________________ AUX PAS, AVEC LE KOMPAS! |
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MenkiJan

Joined: 14 Sep 2008 Posts: 5887 Location: Boston, MA  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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T Will thanks for the info and let me borrow a quote from your explanations where you said:
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Instrumentalist is a player on a musical instrument or an exponent of instrumentalism. For example John may be great at playing the guitar, piano, sax, bass etc... and doesnt know the fundamentals of the instrument or of what he is executing. Playing by ear does not make one a musician. It's just executing what's been memorised as opposed to reading a musical piece. |
Most of our artists are playing by ears.
Where would Ti Will categorize himself? |
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SIROMYEL
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 9967 Location: TAMPA  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure I agree with these definitions.
diferans sa yo se nan lide ti will yo ye.
There is a difference between a singer and a vocalist?
a singer uses the voice to sing notes. Which makes them a vocalist.
an instrumentalist is playing music.... which makes them a musician.
Just because someone cannot read music, doesn't mean you are not a musician. the personhas an understanding to some extent of what they are doing. Otherwise they would not be able to replicate the sound they just heard. How do you know a C when you hear it so that you play it on your instrument? HOw do you know a e flat when you hear it?
Some people who read music cannnot play by ear if their life depended on it. So to me it is just a matter of skill.
In fact I think it is an advantage to play by ear because music theory can easily be learned. Not so easy to learn to play by ear. It's a gift.
Ti will needs to make these differences more clear for me because quite frankly, it is not sinking in for me. _________________ A man who has taken possession of his own mind may take possession of anything else to which he is justly entitled_ Carnegie |
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PhizUniq
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: HAITI  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Gade mwen te bliye mande Ti Will sa tou...
Ti Will, can you read and write music?  _________________ Yo di djaz sa frekan... Se pa fòt nou. Nou just RESAN! |
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yayad
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 790 Location: TWILLS - NEW YORK  |
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Phiz! Yes Ti Will can read and write music... Wish you a happy new year. |
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kompared

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 10274 Location: miami, Florida  |
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Good stuff T-Will...
I will add that a good vocalist is gifted with a great voice but does not not to have great rythm and tonality automatically.
Great singers sing with expression, articualtion, rythm and have great soul. They do not have to have a beautiful voice. However they do connect to the audience better than a great vocalist.
I like the Armstrong example as agreat vocalist but not a great singer. i will also add PIPO and Jude Jean into that list. However singers like KINOP, GRACIA, GAZZMAN, Michael Guirand... to name a few are considered great singers although they do not have the greatest voice in the business. Singer like CUBANO is always considered like a greater singer than his bandmate ZOUZOULE although ZOUZOULE is a better vocalist.
Now KM members can have a better understanding why CUBANO did not have the PIPO, JUDE JEAN, ARMSTRONG in his list of choice because his concern was not about the singers with the greatest voice, but the ones who make an impact on him as far as soul, feeling...!!!!
I believe they owe CUBANO an apology..
T-WILL, again great insight...!!!! _________________ Kite'l mache |
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Canatienne
Joined: 24 Feb 2010 Posts: 95 Location: Sunshine State/ Montreal in my heart  |
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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PhizUniq wrote: |
Interesting!
But it would be better and easier to understand if Ti Will gave examples of the current artists. |
Smart ass! You are looking for trouble! |
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